The slightly too early trade deadline thread

[Donn Beach]

I wandered into strikeout records, the MLB record for strikeouts by a pitcher is 513 if you include pre 20th century. If you want to bother it's an interesting story


https://thebaseballbloggess.com/2021/06 ... whirlwind/

[D-train]

And what team is that? What team is going to trade value for Woo and then proceed to run his arm into the ground?

Run his arm into the ground. lol You must think Jerry has a PhD in physiology???

[Sexymarinersfan]

Kolten is a gosh darn escape artist.

[Captain 97]

Padres had the bases loaded nobody out in the top of the 10th inning last night with Bogaerts up and didn't score a run. Rockies walked them off with a bases loaded sac fly themselves. They just cannot get over the hump.

How I wouldn't mind a package for Soto centered around Woo and France and few prospects.

They can have Trammell back too.....

I honestly want to see them trade Woo so we can get Hancock up here.

I don't think there'd be fall off and Hancock would head into '24 seemingly without an innings limit as he's gonna hit 150 or so innings this season.

I think the luster is off of Hancock. He has a 4.26 ERA in AA as a 24 year old. He is far from ready and may never get there. He seems fragile. might be a candidate for the bullpen at some point.

[Donn Beach]

And what team is that? What team is going to trade value for Woo and then proceed to run his arm into the ground?

Run his arm into the ground. lol You must think Jerry has a PhD in physiology???

What I think is every ML team these days handles their pitching the same way. They invest in it and protect it. Is there a team you know of that handles it differently?

[Juliooooo]

They can have Trammell back too.....

I honestly want to see them trade Woo so we can get Hancock up here.

I don't think there'd be fall off and Hancock would head into '24 seemingly without an innings limit as he's gonna hit 150 or so innings this season.

I think the luster is off of Hancock. He has a 4.26 ERA in AA as a 24 year old. He is far from ready and may never get there. He seems fragile. might be a candidate for the bullpen at some point.

Emerson has been awesome the last 2 months other than 1 start. He gave up 9 in one game, and still has a 2.73 ERA since June 6

[D-train]

And what team is that? What team is going to trade value for Woo and then proceed to run his arm into the ground?

Run his arm into the ground. lol You must think Jerry has a PhD in physiology???

What I think is every ML team these days handles their pitching the same way. They invest in it and protect it. Is there a team you know of that handles it differently?

Other teams are idiots about it too. Classic example right here. In 2022 the Phillies limited Andrew Painter to 103 innings in 22 starts less than 5 innings per. Here is the result of them NOT running his arm into the ground.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/andr ... n-surgery/

[Seattle or Bust]

They can have Trammell back too.....

I honestly want to see them trade Woo so we can get Hancock up here.

I don't think there'd be fall off and Hancock would head into '24 seemingly without an innings limit as he's gonna hit 150 or so innings this season.

I think the luster is off of Hancock. He has a 4.26 ERA in AA as a 24 year old. He is far from ready and may never get there. He seems fragile. might be a candidate for the bullpen at some point.

Look deeper into his starts.

12 of his 19 starts he has allowed 1 run or less. In those starts he has a .90 ERA

In 14 of his 19 starts, he has allowed 3 runs or less. In those starts he has a 1.14 ERA.

That plays every day of the week.

The problem is that he has had 5 starts where he hasn't been able to make it past the 4th inning... in 3 of those starts he hasn't been able to make it through 2 innings and was shelled.

The question you have to ask is which starts represent the player more? The 14 where he was near untouchable? Or the weird starts where he couldn't make it past the 2nd inning?

[Captain 97]

I honestly want to see them trade Woo so we can get Hancock up here.

I don't think there'd be fall off and Hancock would head into '24 seemingly without an innings limit as he's gonna hit 150 or so innings this season.

I think the luster is off of Hancock. He has a 4.26 ERA in AA as a 24 year old. He is far from ready and may never get there. He seems fragile. might be a candidate for the bullpen at some point.

Look deeper into his starts.

12 of his 19 starts he has allowed 1 run or less. In those starts he has a .90 ERA

In 14 of his 19 starts, he has allowed 3 runs or less. In those starts he has a 1.14 ERA.

That plays every day of the week.

The problem is that he has had 5 starts where he hasn't been able to make it past the 4th inning... in 3 of those starts he hasn't been able to make it through 2 innings and was shelled.

The question you have to ask is which starts represent the player more? The 14 where he was near untouchable? Or the weird starts where he clearly can't make it past the 2nd inning?

Every pitcher looks great if you ignore their bad starts.

[Seattle or Bust]

I think the luster is off of Hancock. He has a 4.26 ERA in AA as a 24 year old. He is far from ready and may never get there. He seems fragile. might be a candidate for the bullpen at some point.

Look deeper into his starts.

12 of his 19 starts he has allowed 1 run or less. In those starts he has a .90 ERA

In 14 of his 19 starts, he has allowed 3 runs or less. In those starts he has a 1.14 ERA.

That plays every day of the week.

The problem is that he has had 5 starts where he hasn't been able to make it past the 4th inning... in 3 of those starts he hasn't been able to make it through 2 innings and was shelled.

The question you have to ask is which starts represent the player more? The 14 where he was near untouchable? Or the weird starts where he clearly can't make it past the 2nd inning?

Every pitcher looks great if you ignore their bad starts.

You have come to the forum today to make really blanket statements today it seems...

Not every pitcher has 14 starts with a 1.14 ERA.