The slightly too early trade deadline thread

[Juliooooo]

Teo back to Toronto??

So mariners pay the bulk of his salary, give up better prospects, and they still get him for their playoff run

[Seattle or Bust]

Appears the Astros are gonna get Verlander again.

The other organizations in the AL West just want it more.

[ice99]

And I’m saying that he clearly figured something out starting June, and his overall numbers for the year might not be that significant compared to the last 10 starts where he’s been awesome

And I'm saying Miller had better peripherals, not to mention Hancock's long term peripherals.

And the original argument started because someone mentioned Hancock ERA as the reason you shouldn’t be excited about him. Point is, there is much more that just simply looking at someone’s ERA, there’s more than looking at their K/BB ratio as well

And the point is that there is something more than looking at a SSS. There's even depth considerations.

[desbcoach]

Astros get Verlander back. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/ ... stros.html

[Seattle or Bust]

It cracks me up when M's fans say the M's can't sign players for big money...

The Mets just traded off some $80 million that the Astros will now cover, ate some cash, and got the Stros no. 1 prospect back in the deal.

God we are a pathetic franchise.

[GL_Storm]

Houston giving up Drew Gilbert is pretty surprising.

[Seattle or Bust]

Mets also get Ryan Clifford back... 11th round pick last year who has put up OPS's over .900 at the A level. He was supposedly the hang up in the deal as the Astros didn't want to part with him.

The. Astros. Want. It. More.

[Michael K.]

Appears the Astros are gonna get Verlander again.

The other organizations in the AL West just want it more.

Wash, rinse repeat. Every team we compete against makes a concerted effort to get better, and we spew bullshit to the fans about needing money for three years form now to resign guys. Fuck this. I guess one playoff appearance in my son's lifetime is enough? I am left longing for the days when I was mad that the Yankees kicked our ass in the ALCS. Those were the days.

[Seattle or Bust]

Per Morosi.

[Big_Maple]

Ok. It will never happen. I am just metaphysical navel gazing here. But in the next 3 hours, it seems like we could fleece the Mets.

The Mets seem to be in fire sale mode after an off-season of spending like a sailor on shore-leave. Scherzer and Verlander are gone and their starting rotation is in shambles. They could use a promising arm - and I’m not even taking about Gilbert here. They could use a Woo or a Miller.

What’s more, their position, players’ values are at an all time low. Jeff McNeil has a -0.9 value, and Francisco Lindor’s is -19.1

The Mets have a crap ton of middle infielders coming through the system in the next year or so, and they may want to continue to shed salary as they make their historic push for Ohtani in a few months.

For all of these reasons, we could swing a trade for some established bats. Too bad we can’t or won’t.

As a ridiculous example, we could get Lindor, McNeil, Alonso and Nimmo for the apparent price of a single Miller and still come out ahead. I know it’s just a silly example based on fictitious numbers, but still - what the serious fuck??? Come on, Trade Jerry!