2025 Prospects Thread

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:17 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:47 pm
Can anyone justify Colt Emerson being a higher rated prospect than Michael Arroyo?

Arroyo is about 300 days older, but man... do 300 days make that big of a difference? Between May and June Arroyo has an OPS around 1.200 with 12 homers.
It is insane. Racism? LOL
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:23 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:20 am
Fangraphs is out with their take on the Mariner's system and top prospects: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/seattle-mar ... prospects/

Here is an excerpt from Longenhagen's take on Colt Emerson:

So why then isn’t Emerson hitting for power? As sexy as his hands are, his bat path is long and really only explosive when he’s cutting through the bottom two thirds of the zone. Opposing pitchers can get him to swing underneath elevated fastballs, and can neuter his contact quality by locating pitches down and away from him. This has been evident to the eye for the last couple of seasons, but not really on paper. Emerson can’t turn on fastballs at all right now; every airborne ball in play of his versus heaters is shot down the left field line. It takes him too long to get on plane with fastballs in a way that allows him to do damage, and he drives them into the ground most of the time. His average launch angle as of list publication is one degree, while his groundball rate is up over 50%. None of this means that Emerson is bad, it just means he’s not a fully actualized threat as a power hitter right now.

This is the most detailed prospect evaluation I've read on Emerson and it absolutely screams for an offseason reworking his swing. Hopefully the Mariners are on top of that.
But whenever I question him on X I get like five replies saying I am crazy just like I did with Kelenic. btw he is OPSing about .600 in AAA. Braves might dump him after this season.
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Juliooooo » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:23 am

McGraw is now with Everett. 3.0 scoreless innings with 4 K today
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Vogelbomb » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:51 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:23 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:20 am
Fangraphs is out with their take on the Mariner's system and top prospects: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/seattle-mar ... prospects/

Here is an excerpt from Longenhagen's take on Colt Emerson:

So why then isn’t Emerson hitting for power? As sexy as his hands are, his bat path is long and really only explosive when he’s cutting through the bottom two thirds of the zone. Opposing pitchers can get him to swing underneath elevated fastballs, and can neuter his contact quality by locating pitches down and away from him. This has been evident to the eye for the last couple of seasons, but not really on paper. Emerson can’t turn on fastballs at all right now; every airborne ball in play of his versus heaters is shot down the left field line. It takes him too long to get on plane with fastballs in a way that allows him to do damage, and he drives them into the ground most of the time. His average launch angle as of list publication is one degree, while his groundball rate is up over 50%. None of this means that Emerson is bad, it just means he’s not a fully actualized threat as a power hitter right now.

This is the most detailed prospect evaluation I've read on Emerson and it absolutely screams for an offseason reworking his swing. Hopefully the Mariners are on top of that.
But whenever I question him on X I get like five replies saying I am crazy just like I did with Kelenic. btw he is OPSing about .600 in AAA. Braves might dump him after this season.
Just went HR, 2b. But he can't elevate, right? How many ABs did that scout watch?

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Vogelbomb » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:52 am

And btw, Harry Ford, the guy you love to neg, is killing it in AAA just as I predicted. IF M's deal him, I'm done. He should be up, DHing every day, catching about 25 games through the end of the year. His bat will help this team.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:37 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:51 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:23 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:20 am
Fangraphs is out with their take on the Mariner's system and top prospects: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/seattle-mar ... prospects/

Here is an excerpt from Longenhagen's take on Colt Emerson:

So why then isn’t Emerson hitting for power? As sexy as his hands are, his bat path is long and really only explosive when he’s cutting through the bottom two thirds of the zone. Opposing pitchers can get him to swing underneath elevated fastballs, and can neuter his contact quality by locating pitches down and away from him. This has been evident to the eye for the last couple of seasons, but not really on paper. Emerson can’t turn on fastballs at all right now; every airborne ball in play of his versus heaters is shot down the left field line. It takes him too long to get on plane with fastballs in a way that allows him to do damage, and he drives them into the ground most of the time. His average launch angle as of list publication is one degree, while his groundball rate is up over 50%. None of this means that Emerson is bad, it just means he’s not a fully actualized threat as a power hitter right now.

This is the most detailed prospect evaluation I've read on Emerson and it absolutely screams for an offseason reworking his swing. Hopefully the Mariners are on top of that.
But whenever I question him on X I get like five replies saying I am crazy just like I did with Kelenic. btw he is OPSing about .600 in AAA. Braves might dump him after this season.
Just went HR, 2b. But he can't elevate, right? How many ABs did that scout watch?
It's called sample sizes dog.

The guy has a .380 slug in A ball... you think he's elevating?

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:10 am

Emerson has not been elevating the ball very well at all. Last night may have been a turning point though. We'll have to wait and see. I'm sure coaches have been working with him. There's a development process at play.

I'd like to see some of these guys get their batting averages up.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by desbcoach » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:00 pm

I have seen a couple outlets saying Moncada and another 3B as potential trade targets. I can’t see moving on from Williamson unless a huge upgrade. He is hitting 0.257 and decent defense, hitting 0.300 since he has changed his stance. Needs to be a true upgrade for what ever we trade. I see 1B as biggest spot bc we don’t have anyone on Farm unless we teach Ford at AAA.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:12 pm

It's the OPS, Williamson is 607, moncada is .841

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by desbcoach » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:49 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:12 pm
It's the OPS, Williamson is 607, moncada is .841
I understand that but not a clear upgrade at all. He doesn’t hit lefties at all so would have to be platoon while more power would rather give Williamson a shot to show more improvement. He isnt hurting us at all compared to other positions

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