How do we improve the club?

[Donn Beach]

Here's a question for the board. Anybody untouchable in your eyes. Pittsburgh says Skenes isn't available but what if you floated them say a Laz Montes, Arroyo & Harry Ford + maybe another arm would they do it & would you do it.

take more than that, when the White Sox Chris Sale they got the number one prospect in baseball as well as number 67, Yoan Moncada and Michael Kopech, as well as Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz.

[D-train]

It's interesting, I think there's going to be pressure on dipoto to do something at the deadline, but there isn't going to be a lot available and there isn't a clear cut area presently to upgrade. He tends to be active at the deadline, for all the criticism he tends to come up with something

Ben has a .615 OPS and Geno has an .889 OPS Kind of seems like a bit of an upgrade. I agree Naylor isn't my of an upgrade but O Hearn would be at 1B.

yeah, I see Ben having a decent season at 1.4 WAR so far so it could be fairly incremental, would Geno continue to hit the way he is if he came back to T-Mobile. Passan thinks Naylor is the best upgrade for the Mariners, though pulling off the pair would be coup.

Weakness: Corner infielder

Best match: Josh Naylor, Arizona Diamondbacks

Though the Mariners are managing with Donovan Solano and Luke Raley at first base, upgrading to Naylor would transform Seattle's lineup for the better. Whether it's slotting him behind J.P. Crawford to ensure Cal Raleigh comes to the plate with more baserunners, or sticking him in between Raleigh and Randy Arozarena to do the cleaning up himself, Naylor is a high-average, low-strikeout slugger whose quality at-bats would help transform a solid Seattle lineup into something more.

Pairing him with Eugenio Suárez would plug both of Seattle's holes, and certainly the Mariners have the prospect capital to pull off the double. Considering the state of their pitching -- a tremendous rotation and a Gabe Speier-Matt Brash-Andrés Muñoz endgame -- the Mariners need only a depth reliever to feel comfortable. Upgrading the lineup is the distinct priority over the next three weeks, and executives expect Seattle to act aggressively.

Naylor is redundant with Raley. He has an .817 OPS and Raley is at .814 the past month. Naylor is at 1.1 WAR in 369 PAs and Raley is at 0.6 WAR in 156 PAs which is obviously better. Naylor can't hit lefties either. Don't trade for Naylor. Passan is a dope if he thinks he is better option than Geno. Geno also brings all the intangibles of being a beloved former Mariner.

[Donn Beach]

and that's really the only possibility of an improvement, they aren't trading for Arenado, anybody else isn't really an upgrade

[HawkandMariner88]

Here's a question for the board. Anybody untouchable in your eyes. Pittsburgh says Skenes isn't available but what if you floated them say a Laz Montes, Arroyo & Harry Ford + maybe another arm would they do it & would you do it.

Or how about Kirby, Harry Ford, and Montes for Acuna? It seems crazy but it also seems pretty clear that Acuna WILL be traded at some point.

I pose that same proposition to both Cleveland & Atlanta as well as Pittsburgh. See which one blinks first. ACL tear, what are the odds that affects his swing long term. On the other hand someone as consistent as JRam or a bonafide Ace in Skenes, that would be hard to pass up. I wouldn't even know how to rank those. Acuna is younger, just the thought of that injury would concern me. I mean I know it's not the same as a football player. What makes you think Acuna WILL be traded?

[HawkandMariner88]

Ben has a .615 OPS and Geno has an .889 OPS Kind of seems like a bit of an upgrade. I agree Naylor isn't my of an upgrade but O Hearn would be at 1B.

yeah, I see Ben having a decent season at 1.4 WAR so far so it could be fairly incremental, would Geno continue to hit the way he is if he came back to T-Mobile. Passan thinks Naylor is the best upgrade for the Mariners, though pulling off the pair would be coup.

Weakness: Corner infielder

Best match: Josh Naylor, Arizona Diamondbacks

Though the Mariners are managing with Donovan Solano and Luke Raley at first base, upgrading to Naylor would transform Seattle's lineup for the better. Whether it's slotting him behind J.P. Crawford to ensure Cal Raleigh comes to the plate with more baserunners, or sticking him in between Raleigh and Randy Arozarena to do the cleaning up himself, Naylor is a high-average, low-strikeout slugger whose quality at-bats would help transform a solid Seattle lineup into something more.

Pairing him with Eugenio Suárez would plug both of Seattle's holes, and certainly the Mariners have the prospect capital to pull off the double. Considering the state of their pitching -- a tremendous rotation and a Gabe Speier-Matt Brash-Andrés Muñoz endgame -- the Mariners need only a depth reliever to feel comfortable. Upgrading the lineup is the distinct priority over the next three weeks, and executives expect Seattle to act aggressively.

Naylor is redundant with Raley. He has an .817 OPS and Raley is at .814 the past month. Naylor is at 1.1 WAR in 369 PAs and Raley is at 0.6 WAR in 156 PAs which is obviously better. Naylor can't hit lefties either. Don't trade for Naylor. Passan is a dope if he thinks he is better option than Geno. Geno also brings all the intangibles of being a beloved former Mariner.

You think there's any chance we land both O'Hearn & Geno or just stick with Raley? As far as late inning guys who's our best bet the only one I've seen rumored is Fairbanks from Tampa.

[GL_Storm]

Here's a question for the board. Anybody untouchable in your eyes. Pittsburgh says Skenes isn't available but what if you floated them say a Laz Montes, Arroyo & Harry Ford + maybe another arm would they do it & would you do it.

Or how about Kirby, Harry Ford, and Montes for Acuna? It seems crazy but it also seems pretty clear that Acuna WILL be traded at some point.

I pose that same proposition to both Cleveland & Atlanta as well as Pittsburgh. See which one blinks first. ACL tear, what are the odds that affects his swing long term. On the other hand someone as consistent as JRam or a bonafide Ace in Skenes, that would be hard to pass up. I wouldn't even know how to rank those. Acuna is younger, just the thought of that injury would concern me. I mean I know it's not the same as a football player. What makes you think Acuna WILL be traded?

I don't have any hard evidence but he pops off at the club every now and again and it's been reported that he's unhappy with his contract, which is extremely team friendly. So I think they'll probably move him at some point while his value is high.

[Seattle or Bust]

yeah, I see Ben having a decent season at 1.4 WAR so far so it could be fairly incremental, would Geno continue to hit the way he is if he came back to T-Mobile. Passan thinks Naylor is the best upgrade for the Mariners, though pulling off the pair would be coup.

Naylor is redundant with Raley. He has an .817 OPS and Raley is at .814 the past month. Naylor is at 1.1 WAR in 369 PAs and Raley is at 0.6 WAR in 156 PAs which is obviously better. Naylor can't hit lefties either. Don't trade for Naylor. Passan is a dope if he thinks he is better option than Geno. Geno also brings all the intangibles of being a beloved former Mariner.

You think there's any chance we land both O'Hearn & Geno or just stick with Raley? As far as late inning guys who's our best bet the only one I've seen rumored is Fairbanks from Tampa.

O'hearn isn't likely either considering he puts one of Raley or Canzone on the bench if he plays.

The M's have 2x outfielders who can't hit lefties. They have 2x 1B's who can't hit lefties. O'Hearn can't hit lefties... so he's not really an option.

I liked O'hearn when Raley was hurt, but Raley came back faster than expected.

[Pharmabro]

It's interesting, I think there's going to be pressure on dipoto to do something at the deadline, but there isn't going to be a lot available and there isn't a clear cut area presently to upgrade. He tends to be active at the deadline, for all the criticism he tends to come up with something

Ben has a .615 OPS and Geno has an .889 OPS Kind of seems like a bit of an upgrade. I agree Naylor isn't my of an upgrade but O Hearn would be at 1B.

Yes, I agree.

But he did have a cool stretch 28 days of .219 .375 .344 .719. But has put up an .830 OPS the last week. In mid-June he put up a 20-game stretch of

.182 .267 .303 .570

and in the 12 games after that .235 .395 .353 .748. Before the last month + he was a .960 OPS guy. Maybe he is doing the Josh Bell falloff fade.

[Donn Beach]

And does Geno continue at that pace with a move back to Tmobile? Geno would be an upgrade but I am not sure it wouldn't be fairly incremental. He might add a win and who knows that win could be important but its not a train wreck that is the Yankees. Ben isn't the negative WAR player that we have put up with in the past

[Pharmabro]

I think the best approach would be to do a short timer like Geno for 3B, and do a longer term with 2B
Nats
#1 target 3.5 years of CJ A. 138 OPS+ 3.5 WAR
TB
Lowe 125 OPS+ 19 bombs close to 100RBI/runs per 162 pace. pro-rate of 10.5M this ear and or a 500k buyout of 11.5M for next year.
Cards
2B/3B/OF 2.5years of Brendan Donavan 124 OPS+ one the year 118 career
O's
4.5 years of Jordan Westburg 2B/3B 118 OPS+

Get a really good left hander to go with Gabe.

The top of the list is Chapman but even if you added Andrew Chaffin and his 146 ERA+ vs a guy like Sauce it would help out.