I think we are good at 2B for 2024

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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by bpj » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:22 am

ice99 wrote:
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It seems too small of a sample size. How about 2021-2023?

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 3&qual=100

The problem with Cabby playing everyday is he hasn't hit RHP.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... geitems=30
Depends what you're trying to do with it I suppose.

I'm not forecasting how they will do. It's just looking at how they have done.

It wouldn't make any of them full time players.

They'd be splitting Geno's 700 plate appearances among multiple players, Moore, Caballero, Rojas, Bliss, even Ty France if I had my way, because we'd get an actual 1B that could hit.

What I'm saying is it wouldn't have been hard to replace Geno's (or Ty's) production. Doesn't even seem that debatable.. he's been a league average player.

Maybe Geno would be better next year. I'm not counting on it, so I wouldn't hold the spot for him.

He turns 33 during next season. You don't have to look at the projections to see that he's not trending up.
Yes, but other than replacing Geno with a committee, who are you going to get? Chapman seems the only 3B out there, but he seems like he's going to be like Teoscar, but with better defense and lower offense. I'm not so sure about getting defense first player, other than SS and CF.

I guess it comes down to what they can get for Geno. Dipoto/Stanton would like it as it would reduce payroll.
My starting 3B would be a battle between Dylan Moore and Ty France. A Caballero/Rojas 2B combo until Bliss gets called up makes sense to me.

They're all versatile enough so we're covered at every position no matter what.

There aren't any substantial 3B bats available imo, that's why that would be my plan, plus increases the likelihood there's a taker for Suarez.

I'd be focused on adding a 1B and DH. Guys that deserve the position.

Taking those 1B at bats off the table means France/Caballero/Rojas/Moore (and potentially Bliss) share the at bats that we vacated with Geno's departure. Moore would get some OF at bats as well.

France over Geno because the upside is similar, but France is under control longer and will be half the price in 2023 as Geno, and a few years younger.

I would consider the Mariners trading Geno a similar move to the Blue Jays trading Teoscar Hernandez last year. Geno comes with an option for 2025 which may increase his trade value enough to get an Adam Macko and Erik Swanson in return.

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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by D-train » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:59 am

GL_Storm wrote:
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I think if Gleyber was going to come to Seattle he'd been here by now. They would have cut a deal at the deadline.
Are you responding to me? It's hard to tell since you're not quoting me, which is something you do fairly frequently with me and with others. You're also not really engaging with what I said, which is kind of annoying.
I agree. Lazy AF
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:12 pm

I posted a thought I had, didn't really see an obligation to have to quote. They have brought in two second basemen since Gleyber has seem to have been made available. I would figure that conversation has taken place.

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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 pm

seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm
To be a winner we cannot continue with the power outage that is 1B and 3B imho.
I can live with Geno for another year.
Trade Ty France please!
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by D-train » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:45 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 pm
seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm
To be a winner we cannot continue with the power outage that is 1B and 3B imho.
I can live with Geno for another year.
Trade Ty France please!
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:45 pm
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 pm
seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm
To be a winner we cannot continue with the power outage that is 1B and 3B imho.
I can live with Geno for another year.
Trade Ty France please!
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Memories fishing with my Brother! Sept. 2018

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Great memory. We had a good day

Fishing has been good so haven’t had much time to follow the mariners
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by D-train » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:03 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:45 pm
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 pm


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Memories fishing with my Brother! Sept. 2018

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Great memory. We had a good day

Fishing has been good so haven’t had much time to follow the mariners 641FF362-39CF-403B-B6D2-742329E2B17F.jpeg
Damn! 30lbs+????
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:12 pm

Just under 30. The kings finally showed up. We got one hell of a show the wildlife refuge is where we fish and 2 giant bull elk where going crazy fighting charging each other over 11 cow elk. It was epic

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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by D-train » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:21 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:12 pm
Just under 30. The kings finally showed up. We got one hell of a show the wildlife refuge is where we fish and 2 giant bull elk where going crazy fighting charging each other over 11 cow elk. It was epic
Wow! You can see some in my pic if you look closely.
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Re: I think we are good at 2B for 2024

Post by bpj » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:27 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:45 pm
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 pm


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Memories fishing with my Brother! Sept. 2018

fishing.JPG
Great memory. We had a good day

Fishing has been good so haven’t had much time to follow the mariners 641FF362-39CF-403B-B6D2-742329E2B17F.jpeg
Wow nice catch Jay!

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