HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:32 am

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Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:55 pm
He's the least PED tainted baseball player imaginable. Which I think is part of his popularity
Sure but none of the current guys really are. We are past that era. Imo its his mystique. And being their first Japanese position player.

And his quotes are off the hook:

https://www.azquotes.com/author/14337-Ichiro_Suzuki
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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:50 am

Disregard what I said about PEDs. This was only ARods 3rd year on the ballot. I have read he might have taken them. :lol:
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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:36 pm

Yeah I was speaking to that period. The chicks dig the long ball period. It was home run crazy. Along comes Ichiro who's basically antithetical to the whole thing. It was such a completely different approach to baseball and Ichiro was so confident in it. It was pretty mind blowing. And he wasn't just a flash in the pan. I have commented before, for me Ichiro is like window into the past. How baseball was played in the dead ball era. The objective wasn't to get on base or hit the ball over the fence, it was to put the ball in play. It's interesting too how Ichiro is a student of history

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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:54 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:36 pm
Yeah I was speaking to that period. The chicks dig the long ball period. It was home run crazy. Along comes Ichiro who's basically antithetical to the whole thing. It was such a completely different approach to baseball and Ichiro was so confident in it. It was pretty mind blowing. And he wasn't just a flash in the pan. I have commented before, for me Ichiro is like window into the past. How baseball was played in the dead ball era. The objective wasn't to get on base or hit the ball over the fence, it was to put the ball in play. It's interesting too how Ichiro is a student of history
Chicks who dig home runs aren't the ones who appeal to me. I think there's sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I'd rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out.
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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:56 pm

Nice quote!: hadn't seen that before

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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:51 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:56 pm
Nice quote!: hadn't seen that before
https://www.azquotes.com/author/14337-Ichiro_Suzuki
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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by DavidGee24 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:59 am

One thing about the 60 WAR argument on Ichiro is that he was just as good at 20 as he was at 27, hitting .385 in Japan. If he starts his career in the majors he's a 90-100 WAR player, easily.

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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:56 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:59 am
One thing about the 60 WAR argument on Ichiro is that he was just as good at 20 as he was at 27, hitting .385 in Japan. If he starts his career in the majors he's a 90-100 WAR player, easily.
Same with Edgar beginning at age 21 and if we want to play the IF game then lets not have him get injured in BC place and he has an above average career defensively at 3B. 110 WAR easy.
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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by bpj » Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:30 pm

From 2001 to 2011 the Mariners ranked 24th in Runs scored.

Just a shame that Ichiro's type of game doesn't lead to more runs because singles and stolen bases have such a low correlation to scoring.

He was pretty useless overall, especially when he was 20% of our payroll in the later years.

Would have made a great CF or 2B, but he never gave us an advantage while taking up a power position.

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Re: HOFer (inevitable) Ichiro Suzuki

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:53 pm

bpj wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:30 pm
From 2001 to 2011 the Mariners ranked 24th in Runs scored.

Just a shame that Ichiro's type of game doesn't lead to more runs because singles and stolen bases have such a low correlation to scoring.

He was pretty useless overall, especially when he was 20% of our payroll in the later years.

Would have made a great CF or 2B, but he never gave us an advantage while taking up a power position.
Pretty bizarre that he was averse to playing CF given his speed. Maybe he thought his refusal to dive would be more obvious.....
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