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Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:45 am
by HawkandMariner88
Pharmabro wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:33 am
HawkandMariner88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:57 pm
Look at it this way. Your not gonna sign all 5 of these guys. Ones gonna have to go. Hancock, Woo, I don't care. Doesn't hurt to make an offer.
Right now they are good and cheap. We are depending on them to keep winning. If you rob Peter to pay Paul. Then you have a scenario where you give up a 700K guy to add say like Tucker who is at 12M this year and 20M+/- next year.
Hancock could Band-aid you to Logan Evans.
The only one I would move for a bat is Miller and that would only be for Rooker.
Not every single pitcher we have is gonna be CY Young Caliber. And like people have said you only need 3 guys in the rotation come playoff time so it doesn't really matter who your #4 & #5 guys are. Obviously they've shown they can develop starting caliber pitching.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:28 am
by Bil522
Sodomojo is reading our threads again. He does a deal trading Miller, Harry,and Michael Arroyo for Tucker and Verlander
https://sodomojo.com/posts/what-a-marin ... j0sm7q678n
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:38 am
by Seattle or Bust
Similar package for what I've proposed for Tucker but replace Miller with Woo...
I'm not sure the M's would want to pay Verlander $17.5 million in 2025 and then again in 2026 if his option vests.
Not at age 42 with his stuff clearly diminishing... it's a silly proposal.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:45 am
by Donn Beach
That option is interesting. Hed have to have a great second half to make it vest, in that case seems to me $17.5 isn't a bad deal. The actual amount of it is $35 mil. The Mets are on the hook for the rest. I can't see the mariners interested in trading for verlander but teams will be.
The amount owed at the deadline this season would be more like $4 mil
Verlander is making $43.33MM this year but the Mets are covering $31.3MM of that, as reported by Kristie Rieken of the Associated Press at the time of last year’s trade. That means the Astros are only on the hook for about $12MM this year, which will be down closer to $4MM by the time the deadline rolls around
There's also a clause in the option that he passes a physical.
That clause would protect clubs against the nightmare scenario where they trade for Verlander, he crosses the 140-inning mark but then requires Tommy John surgery or some other significant procedure. In that situation, Verlander would not have the right to exercise his player option. There’s still the chance of Verlander simply struggling due to his advancing age and triggering the player option, but there’s some downside protection there as well. As part of last year’s trade, the Mets agreed to cover half the option if it vests.
Seems the mariners had been interested before
Verlander has a full no-trade clause, which he waived last summer in order to go from the Mets to the Astros. Nightengale reports that the Dodgers, Rays and Mariners were all heavily involved for the veteran righty, but that he would only waive his no-trade to return to Houston since he loves playing there. Nightengale infers from this that Verlander isn’t likely to waive his no-trade again in order to be sent packing from Houston.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:11 pm
by D-train
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:47 pm
by gil
Small sample size, but Ryan McMahon 1 for 21 in his career at Safeco.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:59 pm
by Juliooooo
Let’s get another lefty utility infielder who is doing OK in a hitters park, that will come in and hit a .600 ops in safeco. At least they learn from their mistakes.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:35 pm
by D-train
Juliooooo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:59 pm
Let’s get another lefty utility infielder who is doing OK in a hitters park, that will come in and hit a .600 ops in safeco. At least they learn from their mistakes.
Seems like he might be another victim of putting on an M's jersey but he does have a .854 OPS on the road this season.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:42 pm
by Walla Walla Dawg II
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:38 am
Similar package for what I've proposed for Tucker but replace Miller with Woo...
I'm not sure the M's would want to pay Verlander $17.5 million in 2025 and then again in 2026 if his option vests.
Not at age 42 with his stuff clearly diminishing... it's a silly proposal.
Why not? They need to see what the Kansas City Chiefs are doing with Taylor Swift and do the EXACT same thing with Kate Upton. She WILL bring fans to the seats.
Re: Kyle Tucker trade
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:19 pm
by D-train
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:42 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:38 am
Similar package for what I've proposed for Tucker but replace Miller with Woo...
I'm not sure the M's would want to pay Verlander $17.5 million in 2025 and then again in 2026 if his option vests.
Not at age 42 with his stuff clearly diminishing... it's a silly proposal.
Why not? They need to see what the Kansas City Chiefs are doing with Taylor Swift and do the EXACT same thing with Kate Upton. She WILL bring fans to the seats.
Buy a seat and see some big Teats.
