Garver getting death threats

Big_Maple
Posts: 1768
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:55 pm

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:34 pm

mostonmike wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:55 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:48 pm
I remember that Monica Seles was stabbed in the back by a lunatic fan. I don’t know if it was preceded by death threats, though.
I think it was a crazed fan of Steffi Graf who wanted to stop Seles from dominating the sport. Very weird and we'd have to stab about 600 players to get the Mariners to World Series contention if we wanted to go down that route.
Weee there death threats before the 1972 Munich Olympics?

User avatar
D-train
Posts: 74654
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 am
Location: Quincy, MA

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by D-train » Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:43 pm

If someone wanted to kill someone, why would they warn them with a threat first?
dt

User avatar
Coeurd’Alene J
Posts: 5567
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 2:56 am

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:18 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:43 pm
If someone wanted to kill someone, why would they warn them with a threat first?
This is some 80 lb weakling talking tough. Hard to believe Garver went public with it. Sympathy in baseball is rare

User avatar
D-train
Posts: 74654
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 am
Location: Quincy, MA

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by D-train » Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:26 pm

Interesting Boone weighed in.
dt

User avatar
mostonmike
Posts: 2231
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 pm
Location: Manchester, England

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by mostonmike » Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:47 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:43 pm
If someone wanted to kill someone, why would they warn them with a threat first?
The IRA often used to issue coded warnings before terrorist attacks on Mainland Britain. It would sound like I was defending them if I said they were aware they were going to cause casualties but warning police would minimise the death tolls. An attack that killed hundreds instead of a few would have damaged their overall political cause.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/code ... 75779.html

Seattle or Bust
Posts: 7993
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:09 pm

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:07 pm

Obviously people sending death threats are losers. No place for that.

As an athlete making $12 million a year to utterly fail at your job, you gotta develop a thicker skin or take steps to block communication from fans if you can't.

Suck it up, tell fans you're going to be better, and figure it out.

Big_Maple
Posts: 1768
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:55 pm

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:20 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:07 pm
Obviously people sending death threats are losers. No place for that.

As an athlete making $12 million a year to utterly fail at your job, you gotta develop a thicker skin or take steps to block communication from fans if you can't.

Suck it up, tell fans you're going to be better, and figure it out.
I agree with this, SoB. He plays a game for a living, and his salary is ostensibly paid by the fans. He is accountable to himself, the team, the franchise and the fan base. He is paid a lot of money to basically do one job, and he’s not doing it very well. So he can expect jeers and boos and social media outrage. Develop thick skin, then focus on getting better.

That said - here are my other thoughts:

1. Death threats are never acceptable. Ever. And they are increasingly common these days, particularly in civil and political discourse. Our first amendment guarantees your right to disagree with someone, but it does not allow you to yell “fire” in a crowded theater - nor to extend credible threats on another person’s life. It is an illegal act of cowardice.

2. Mitch Garver has at least one child. As soon as someone threatens his life, they are by extension threatening his family’s lives. I don’t blame him for going public with it.

3. It is his right to go public and out the cowards. To stay silent is to normalize the behavior.

4. It’s a fucking game for crying out loud. Who takes this so seriously that they would threaten someone else’s life just because they can’t hit a ball with a stick. I can get frothy about the M’s now and the n, but I can’t wrap my head around being so worked up that you threaten someone’s life. WTF?
Last edited by Big_Maple on Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
bpj
Posts: 14257
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:55 am

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by bpj » Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:44 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:20 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:07 pm
Obviously people sending death threats are losers. No place for that.

As an athlete making $12 million a year to utterly fail at your job, you gotta develop a thicker skin or take steps to block communication from fans if you can't.

Suck it up, tell fans you're going to be better, and figure it out.
I agree with this, SoB. He plays a game for a living, and his salary is ostensibly paid by the fans. He is accountable to himself, the team, the franchise and the fan base. He is paid a lot of money to basically do one job, and he’s not doing it very well. So he can expect jeers and boos and social media outrage. Develop thick skin, then focus on getting better.

That said - here are my other thoughts:

1. Death threats are never acceptable. Ever. And they are increasingly common these days, particularly in civil and political discourse. Our first amendment guarantees your right to disagree with someone, but it does not allow you to yell “fire” in a crowded theater - nor to extend credible threats on another person’s life. It is an illegal act of cowardice.

2. Mitch Garver has at least one child. As soon as someone threatens his life, they are by extension threatening his family’s lives. I don’t blame him for going public with it.

3. It is his right to go public and out the cowards. To stay silent is to normalize the behavior.
I agree, if he received death threats he should out them. Did he?

Big_Maple
Posts: 1768
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:55 pm

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:47 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:44 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:20 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:07 pm
Obviously people sending death threats are losers. No place for that.

As an athlete making $12 million a year to utterly fail at your job, you gotta develop a thicker skin or take steps to block communication from fans if you can't.

Suck it up, tell fans you're going to be better, and figure it out.
I agree with this, SoB. He plays a game for a living, and his salary is ostensibly paid by the fans. He is accountable to himself, the team, the franchise and the fan base. He is paid a lot of money to basically do one job, and he’s not doing it very well. So he can expect jeers and boos and social media outrage. Develop thick skin, then focus on getting better.

That said - here are my other thoughts:

1. Death threats are never acceptable. Ever. And they are increasingly common these days, particularly in civil and political discourse. Our first amendment guarantees your right to disagree with someone, but it does not allow you to yell “fire” in a crowded theater - nor to extend credible threats on another person’s life. It is an illegal act of cowardice.

2. Mitch Garver has at least one child. As soon as someone threatens his life, they are by extension threatening his family’s lives. I don’t blame him for going public with it.

3. It is his right to go public and out the cowards. To stay silent is to normalize the behavior.
I agree, if he received death threats he should out them. Did he?
I don’t know. He opened up about it to Divish. Divish published the interview and we are now discussing it on this forum.

I don’t know what, if any legal action he took.

GL_Storm
Posts: 3423
Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:00 pm

Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by GL_Storm » Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:16 pm

The death threats I believe are from disgruntled gamblers. There was an article about it a few months back, how it's becoming a more common issue in the sport.

Post Reply