Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Gleyber and Edgar Barclay for Castillo and Winker. Get er done. Can't go wrong with an Edgar.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:13 pm

Yes, (I could see a Winker and Castilllo or Sewald swing for G T.

I don't like those lousy i9nstincts being mentioned. We have seen enough of those types.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:19 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:13 pm
Yes, (I could see a Winker and Castilllo or Sewald swing for G T.

I don't like those lousy i9nstincts being mentioned. We have seen enough of those types.
He put up 4.1 WAR in just 140 games with those lousy instincts so..
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Post by ice99 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Makes us too righty, might have to put Toro in DH spot. :lol:

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:31 pm

ice99 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:29 pm
Makes us too righty, might have to put Toro in DH spot. :lol:
:) Can't believe we even tendered him....
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by ice99 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:38 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:31 pm
ice99 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:29 pm
Makes us too righty, might have to put Toro in DH spot. :lol:
:) Can't believe we even tendered him....
JD could be saving money due to paying for Teoscar. Maybe he should've tried to trade Diego instead of Swanson.

He DFAed Borucki and Sadler = $2M
Nontendered Luke Weaver = $3M
Nontendered Torrens = $1.2M
Traded Leiws = $1.2M

Yep, wonder why he tendered Toro a contract. Although if the Astros picked him up, he'd be an utility juggernaut.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:47 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:30 pm
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Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:41 pm
Yeah, a couple of people have posted this. I just read this article. I'm good with it. I've heard Gleyber's numbers are atrocious however when Judge isn't in the lineup. Don't know how much stock I put into this. Curious as to what those numbers would look like.
LOL judge missed five games. Who the hell is looking at his stats in five games out of 162
I saw some stupid post over on MLBTR. I don't know if it was just this year, or past years, but they really made it a point to use this for emphasis.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:08 pm

Last season, Altuve (6.6) and Peña (3.4) combined for 10.0 WAR while Frazier (1.1) and Crawford (2.0) combined for just 3.1 WAR according to Fangraphs. With Frazier leaving as a free agent, the Mariners should prioritize adding a player similar to the level of Jose Altuve to make their middle infield less of a disadvantage for the Mariners.

In 2022, Swanson had his best offensive year yet. He was worth 6.4 WAR while slashing .277/.329/.447 with 25 home runs, 18 stolen bases, 96 RBI, and 99 runs scored leading to a 116 wRC+. Those numbers really emphasize how well-rounded Swanson is as a player. He doesn’t hit for the highest average, get on base the most, or hit the most homers. However, he does every single thing well.

MLB Trade Rumors predicts a 9YR/$288M contract for Correa, 8YR/$268M for Turner, 7YR/189M for Bogaerts, and 7YR/$154M for Swanson. That is just $22 million a year, and at the end of the deal, Swanson would only be 35 because he will play at age 29 in 2023. I firmly believe that giving Swanson $20-25 million per year for 6-8 years to get the deal locked in is worth it.
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Maybe Swanson is worth a look. 🤔

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:18 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:08 pm
Last season, Altuve (6.6) and Peña (3.4) combined for 10.0 WAR while Frazier (1.1) and Crawford (2.0) combined for just 3.1 WAR according to Fangraphs. With Frazier leaving as a free agent, the Mariners should prioritize adding a player similar to the level of Jose Altuve to make their middle infield less of a disadvantage for the Mariners.

In 2022, Swanson had his best offensive year yet. He was worth 6.4 WAR while slashing .277/.329/.447 with 25 home runs, 18 stolen bases, 96 RBI, and 99 runs scored leading to a 116 wRC+. Those numbers really emphasize how well-rounded Swanson is as a player. He doesn’t hit for the highest average, get on base the most, or hit the most homers. However, he does every single thing well.

MLB Trade Rumors predicts a 9YR/$288M contract for Correa, 8YR/$268M for Turner, 7YR/189M for Bogaerts, and 7YR/$154M for Swanson. That is just $22 million a year, and at the end of the deal, Swanson would only be 35 because he will play at age 29 in 2023. I firmly believe that giving Swanson $20-25 million per year for 6-8 years to get the deal locked in is worth it.
-Sodo

Maybe Swanson is worth a look. 🤔
He has the same career OPS+ as JP does.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:35 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:08 pm
Last season, Altuve (6.6) and Peña (3.4) combined for 10.0 WAR while Frazier (1.1) and Crawford (2.0) combined for just 3.1 WAR according to Fangraphs. With Frazier leaving as a free agent, the Mariners should prioritize adding a player similar to the level of Jose Altuve to make their middle infield less of a disadvantage for the Mariners.

In 2022, Swanson had his best offensive year yet. He was worth 6.4 WAR while slashing .277/.329/.447 with 25 home runs, 18 stolen bases, 96 RBI, and 99 runs scored leading to a 116 wRC+. Those numbers really emphasize how well-rounded Swanson is as a player. He doesn’t hit for the highest average, get on base the most, or hit the most homers. However, he does every single thing well.

MLB Trade Rumors predicts a 9YR/$288M contract for Correa, 8YR/$268M for Turner, 7YR/189M for Bogaerts, and 7YR/$154M for Swanson. That is just $22 million a year, and at the end of the deal, Swanson would only be 35 because he will play at age 29 in 2023. I firmly believe that giving Swanson $20-25 million per year for 6-8 years to get the deal locked in is worth it.
-Sodo

Maybe Swanson is worth a look. 🤔
He had a .700 OPS on the road.

He destroyed at a park that was 9th friendliest to right handed hitters in 2022.

No thank you.

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