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Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:39 pm
by seattlefan-daBronx
AT Funchal-Madeira wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:30 pm
Dylan moore looks in mid-season form
Yep. Dilly's gonna ride the bench more with new hitters coming in.
Hopefully he finds himself this year and helps the club.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:41 pm
by D-train
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:38 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:36 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:31 pm


I think Dylan Moore is a better player than Toro.

Not sure what happened with the bat last year, but I love him as the team's util.
Walton projects to have over a .700 OPS. Toro is right at .700 and Dylan is in the 600s.
Not a big fan of projections concerning young players. Moore also had an .855 OPS in 2020 and they probably predicted him to be in the .500's.

I wonder what Brett Boone's projection was heading into 2001.
That was pre projection era. lol

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:43 pm
by Seattle or Bust
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:41 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:38 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:36 pm


Walton projects to have over a .700 OPS. Toro is right at .700 and Dylan is in the 600s.
Not a big fan of projections concerning young players. Moore also had an .855 OPS in 2020 and they probably predicted him to be in the .500's.

I wonder what Brett Boone's projection was heading into 2001.
That was pre projection era. lol
Point being, it's really not impressive for a website to say "oh, Dylan Moore had a .615 OPS last year? Ok. He will hit for a .650 OPS this year." How on God's green earth would they know that? And what would they say if he hits for a .750 OPS? What if he catches absolute fire like a Max Muncy and has a .900 OPS? Do they apologize?

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:48 pm
by Seattle or Bust
Wyatt Mills picking up from where he left off.

Meatballs up the middle.

The guy who pitched last inning is way better than this clown.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:51 pm
by GL_Storm
I don't think Mills really knows where the ball is going. That's just an impression watching him and his mechanics. He just doesn't look controlled.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:52 pm
by Seattle or Bust
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:51 pm
I don't think Mills really knows where the ball is going. That's just an impression watching him and his mechanics. He just doesn't look controlled.
Which is not good for a guy who throws 91.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:57 pm
by D-train
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:43 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:41 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:38 pm


Not a big fan of projections concerning young players. Moore also had an .855 OPS in 2020 and they probably predicted him to be in the .500's.

I wonder what Brett Boone's projection was heading into 2001.
That was pre projection era. lol
Point being, it's really not impressive for a website to say "oh, Dylan Moore had a .615 OPS last year? Ok. He will hit for a .650 OPS this year." How on God's green earth would they know that? And what would they say if he hits for a .750 OPS? What if he catches absolute fire like a Max Muncy and has a .900 OPS? Do they apologize?
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan but its better than nothing and people can ignore it if they don't like it. Talk a look at the one harmony posted. I actually think they all look quite reasonable. Of course there will be outliers if guys break out or slump.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 pm
by harmony
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:43 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:41 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:38 pm


Not a big fan of projections concerning young players. Moore also had an .855 OPS in 2020 and they probably predicted him to be in the .500's.

I wonder what Brett Boone's projection was heading into 2001.
That was pre projection era. lol
Point being, it's really not impressive for a website to say "oh, Dylan Moore had a .615 OPS last year? Ok. He will hit for a .650 OPS this year." How on God's green earth would they know that? And what would they say if he hits for a .750 OPS? What if he catches absolute fire like a Max Muncy and has a .900 OPS? Do they apologize?
Baseball projections systems always compare their projections to the results (and compare their projections and results to the projections and results of other projection systems). It's a competitive business.

A basic understanding of baseball analytics is recommended:

https://library.fangraphs.com/getting-started/

... at least an understanding of basic statistics.

Analytics power most industries, not just baseball.

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:22 pm
by desbcoach
Early but it looks like some good stuff, pitchers that didn’t perform will be AAA fodder or lesss

Re: Ms vs Angels

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:30 pm
by D-train
harmony wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:43 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:41 pm


That was pre projection era. lol
Point being, it's really not impressive for a website to say "oh, Dylan Moore had a .615 OPS last year? Ok. He will hit for a .650 OPS this year." How on God's green earth would they know that? And what would they say if he hits for a .750 OPS? What if he catches absolute fire like a Max Muncy and has a .900 OPS? Do they apologize?
Baseball projections systems always compare their projections to the results (and compare their projections and results to the projections and results of other projection systems). It's a competitive business.

A basic understanding of baseball analytics is recommended:

https://library.fangraphs.com/getting-started/

... at least an understanding of basic statistics.

Analytics power most industries, not just baseball.
Can confirm being a forecaster in the pharma industry.