Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

[bpj]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

Point of order - no one in the UK believes a word printed in the Sun newspaper - apart from perhaps the date at the top. Let's all agree never to quote from that piece of shit ever again.

Here's part of the reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_H ... r_coverage

Fair enough, I totally understand, people still quote CNN here in the US too.

[mostonmike]

What a fascinating discussion.

For what its worth and back to the original question I think we would have to consider the impact on the players he would be playing with. It doesn't matter how good he is and whether he's done anything wrong, if Cal Raleigh isn't on board with it as his catcher then his overall performance will likely regress from his capability.

We don't know him, but he seems like a nobhead to me and we've probably all worked with one in the past. Even though "we will make sure we are professional about it" - you know there is a conscious or unconscious lack of co-operation with the nobhead that will see overall team performance decline. That devalues the reason he would be brought in for which is his premium ability.

The whole team would have to embrace him for it to be considered a worthy move and I just don't think our current crop would be happy with it. On those grounds more than anything I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

[harmony]

What a fascinating discussion.

For what its worth and back to the original question I think we would have to consider the impact on the players he would be playing with. It doesn't matter how good he is and whether he's done anything wrong, if Cal Raleigh isn't on board with it as his catcher then his overall performance will likely regress from his capability.

We don't know him, but he seems like a nobhead to me and we've probably all worked with one in the past. Even though "we will make sure we are professional about it" - you know there is a conscious or unconscious lack of co-operation with the nobhead that will see overall team performance decline. That devalues the reason he would be brought in for which is his premium ability.

The whole team would have to embrace him for it to be considered a worthy move and I just don't think our current crop would be happy with it. On those grounds more than anything I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

Some Los Angeles Dodger teammates reportedly want Trevor Bauer back, according to this Los Angeles Times piece:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/ ... on-looming

As mentioned earlier: Everyone, including Bauer, deserves an opportunity for redemption.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... 76#p222609

... elsewhere because of the potential distractions.

[harmony]

What a fascinating discussion.

For what its worth and back to the original question I think we would have to consider the impact on the players he would be playing with. It doesn't matter how good he is and whether he's done anything wrong, if Cal Raleigh isn't on board with it as his catcher then his overall performance will likely regress from his capability.

We don't know him, but he seems like a nobhead to me and we've probably all worked with one in the past. Even though "we will make sure we are professional about it" - you know there is a conscious or unconscious lack of co-operation with the nobhead that will see overall team performance decline. That devalues the reason he would be brought in for which is his premium ability.

The whole team would have to embrace him for it to be considered a worthy move and I just don't think our current crop would be happy with it. On those grounds more than anything I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

Some Los Angeles Dodger teammates reportedly want Trevor Bauer back, according to this Los Angeles Times piece:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/ ... on-looming

As mentioned earlier: Everyone, including Bauer, deserves an opportunity for redemption ...

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... 76#p222609

... elsewhere because of the potential distractions.

[bpj]

What a fascinating discussion.

For what its worth and back to the original question I think we would have to consider the impact on the players he would be playing with. It doesn't matter how good he is and whether he's done anything wrong, if Cal Raleigh isn't on board with it as his catcher then his overall performance will likely regress from his capability.

We don't know him, but he seems like a nobhead to me and we've probably all worked with one in the past. Even though "we will make sure we are professional about it" - you know there is a conscious or unconscious lack of co-operation with the nobhead that will see overall team performance decline. That devalues the reason he would be brought in for which is his premium ability.

The whole team would have to embrace him for it to be considered a worthy move and I just don't think our current crop would be happy with it. On those grounds more than anything I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

Agreed, there's about a .001% chance that the Mariners would sign Trevor Bauer.

He would obviously help the team though, as an upgrade over Marco.

Although, if they traded Marco/Flexen and signed Bauer they could save themselves $25M over the next two years by dumping those two, but, whatever, whatever.

The clubhouse kumbaya is nonsense imo. Nobody had to like Manny Ramirez for him to help the team. (Not that I know if his teammates liked or disliked him, just making a point)

But of course the clubhouse is what the Mariners choose to prioritize. It always seemed like Bauer made the team he was on better by being there, despite his personal shortcomings.

On the other hand Dee Gordon was never good enough at clubhousing to be of any use to the Mariners, yet they kept him around trying to squeeze any drop of production out of him because he was a "clubhouse guy" .

If I had to make a choice between talent or clubhouse, talent wins every time. Especially when the player wasn't charged with any crimes.

But, yeah, the Mariners are the last team I expect to sign Bauer.

[Bil522]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

Point of order - no one in the UK believes a word printed in the Sun newspaper - apart from perhaps the date at the top. Let's all agree never to quote from that piece of shit ever again.

Here's part of the reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_H ... r_coverage

Hate to tell you, but many in UK follow the Sun like any other trash newspaper. How do I know this? They are still printing it for publication. If no one believed a word, their readership would be at zero and would be losing enough money that closing it down would be the only thing to do.

[mostonmike]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

Point of order - no one in the UK believes a word printed in the Sun newspaper - apart from perhaps the date at the top. Let's all agree never to quote from that piece of shit ever again.

Here's part of the reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_H ... r_coverage

Hate to tell you, but many in UK follow the Sun like any other trash newspaper. How do I know this? They are still printing it for publication. If no one believed a word, their readership would be at zero and would be losing enough money that closing it down would be the only thing to do.

They used to print a picture of a topless girl on page 3 every day for about 30 years. That might have some influence on why it sold many millions of copies, not it's intellectual assessment of the worlds top new stories.

Generally, I was just being facetious. It probably something even Sun readers over here would say themselves. Its our self-deprecating humour (humor) and maybe it didn't land there. They know they are buying the Sun for titillation and not quality journalism.

The Sun has been the UK's top selling paper for decades but its reputation for reliability is poor, probably the poorest of the Nationals. Each paper over here has its own reputation - the Daily Express is still obsessed with Brexit and Princess Diana, the Daily Mirror is the rag of the left, the Daily Mail perceived to be right wing bordering on racist. They all pitch stories that appeal to that readership to keep its circulation - that doesn't make any of them reliable. It also suggests that the journalists each paper employs are just puppets who will feed their readers more of the crap they want to read.

I suppose that goes for every newspaper but the difference over here is that we are a small country with lots of National newspapers competing for readers. The route the Sun takes works but isn't reliable.

[Donn Beach]

OT, guy got 30 years for armed robbery, asked for another three so he could do Larry Bird's number. I guess the state was happy to oblige him. Now he seems to regret it, three years is another three years no matter how big a Larry Bird fan you are.

. Torpy says he was “basically clowning around’’ when he asked for more time.

“I told them, ‘Look, you might as well just give me three more and give me a number I like,’ ’’ he said. “And I’ve always liked Larry Bird. And I’ve always liked the Boston Celtics.’’

Because of all the publicity his case has generated, he thinks Bird knows about him.

“I’m pretty sure he thinks I’m an idiot,’’ says Torpy. “I mean, truthfully, most people do. My own family does, so I’m pretty sure he does, too.’’

[D-train]

Point of order - no one in the UK believes a word printed in the Sun newspaper - apart from perhaps the date at the top. Let's all agree never to quote from that piece of shit ever again.

Here's part of the reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_H ... r_coverage

Hate to tell you, but many in UK follow the Sun like any other trash newspaper. How do I know this? They are still printing it for publication. If no one believed a word, their readership would be at zero and would be losing enough money that closing it down would be the only thing to do.

They used to print a picture of a topless girl on page 3 every day for about 30 years. That might have some influence on why it sold many millions of copies, not it's intellectual assessment of the worlds top new stories.

Generally, I was just being facetious. It probably something even Sun readers over here would say themselves. Its our self-deprecating humour (humor) and maybe it didn't land there. They know they are buying the Sun for titillation and not quality journalism.

The Sun has been the UK's top selling paper for decades but its reputation for reliability is poor, probably the poorest of the Nationals. Each paper over here has its own reputation - the Daily Express is still obsessed with Brexit and Princess Diana, the Daily Mirror is the rag of the left, the Daily Mail perceived to be right wing bordering on racist. They all pitch stories that appeal to that readership to keep its circulation - that doesn't make any of them reliable. It also suggests that the journalists each paper employs are just puppets who will feed their readers more of the crap they want to read.

I suppose that goes for every newspaper but the difference over here is that we are a small country with lots of National newspapers competing for readers. The route the Sun takes works but isn't reliable.

I think is VERY smart to look at a topless girl every day for 30 years!

[mostonmike]

I think is VERY smart to look at a topless girl every day for 30 years!

I thought you would like that. And they say the Brits can be quite reserved in their demeanour. Then again, I present Benny Hill as the counter argument.