Seager

[D-train]

And that is before even bringing up his 57 ridiculous base running blunders!

[bpj]

They are capable above league average players. The same is true of Santana but his lack of focus on defense kills me.

Man I have agreed with nearly every thing you said since you have joined but Dee and Mallex wouldn't barely be above average AAA players.

Mallex is the ranked 11th WORST of 140 for qualified players in WAR and Dee is ranked 34th WORST of 213 with 350+ PAs. That is so far below average they can't see average with a Hubble telescope.

I will contend 1 thing, using WAR for players playing out of position isn't fair. If we are judging them, we are judging their value to the team for the future, and Mallex Smith playing in RF is going to be horrible for his WAR. Not sure if that makes a difference or not for his overall WAR. Similar to Austin Nola. You can compare him to 1B, and his WAR is probably not that great, but if you take his batting and put it at 2B or C, then it looks a whole lot better.

It is absolutely fair because it shows their contribution while on the field.

Sure, it should be separated. But given that Mallex can't stick in CF, it's just confirmation that he won't stick other positions.

The only thing that gives Mallex any value at all is his ability to play CF because no matter where else he played it will go down.

If people want to use Santanas time in LF where he was obviously uncomfortable from day one, then you look at every player as they're being used. In this case, IT IS mallexs fault that he's playing "out of position" because he's already proven he's not an every day CF. He's auditioning for 4th OF at best at this point, imo, and proving to be perfectly replacement level.

Without his time in LF Santana may have been in a much better place mentally to continue his offensive onslaught. Instead, as always, the Mariners left their guy out to dry because they're too stupid to see what's staring them in the face.

[Juliooooo]

Mallex, 29th of 30 defensively in CF.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... 2019-12-31

Mallex, 15th of 16 in wRC+ offensively among CFs.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=17,d

He Sucks. Its indisputable, irrefutable and unequivocal. He Sucks.

Right. His hitting isn't the problem. I could live with his hitting if he had the defense in CF you'd expect with his speed, and didn't have the baserunning errors. Question is, can those be fixed? He's young, but with 4 years in the MLB, it should be better

[bpj]

His hitting is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

[Juliooooo]

His hitting is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

I should have said that it isn't the biggest problem imo. It definitely isn't great, but it would be more palatable if he had gold glove defense and 40 steals without the baserunning errors.

[bpj]

His hitting is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

I should have said that it isn't the biggest problem imo. It definitely isn't great, but it would be more palatable if he had gold glove defense and 40 steals without the baserunning errors.

If he was a good player instead of Mallex Smith

[Moe Gibbs]

Until Houston has a bunch of their best position players either retire, get too expensive to re-sign or else go into mid career slumps, this "rebuild" of ours needs to focus on pitching. Pitching that's big and nasty enough to take Houston's All Star lineup down a peg or two. Like the Dodgers did in the 1960s. Otherwise our rebuild might give us a closer look at Houston's back bumper but that's about it.

[Wishhiker]

Mallex and Dee have both produced above that level. This is not the only year of either's career. Same with Santana. And I already said I don't want Dee here next year twice, you continue to quote it.

I'm only saying that a 26 year old Mallex and 27 year old Santana aren't necessarily cooked. Smith is the one who made amusements in season though. That's who I'd bet on if having to pick 1. Partly because his bad CF is definitely better than Santana would be.

You want to continue to attack one thing I said and act like 5 months is a baseball life, be my guest. You're missing the point.

[D-train]

His hitting is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

They just need to replace the grass at T Mobile with an ice rink and he should be fine.

[D-train]

Mallex and Dee have both produced above that level. This is not the only year of either's career. Same with Santana. And I already said I don't want Dee here next year twice, you continue to quote it.

I'm only saying that a 26 year old Mallex and 27 year old Santana aren't necessarily cooked. Smith is the one who made amusements in season though. That's who I'd bet on if having to pick 1. Partly because his bad CF is definitely better than Santana would be.

You want to continue to attack one thing I said and act like 5 months is a baseball life, be my guest. You're missing the point.

Yes, Smith definitely made some "amusements" this season. Can not argue with that!