5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by D-train » Wed May 28, 2025 2:14 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:05 am
Dylan Moore now has 6 extra base hits off right handed pitching in 84 plate appearances... they sit him against righty starters.

Mitch Garver and Donovan Solano have a combined 2 extra base hits off left handed pitchers in 109 plate appearances and they PLATOON AGAINST LEFTIES.
They can't be looking at any of those numbers. Why do they even have an analytics Dept.????
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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by gil » Wed May 28, 2025 2:21 pm

Unbelievable. And it isn't just one guy crunching numbers, is it? I mean, how many people are working in analytics for the Mariners?

I wonder if DOGE is available to have a little look at this. ;)

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed May 28, 2025 2:34 pm

Wow. We have a plethora of pitching riches!
Our two main arms were injured and the youngins have stepped the F up!!!

Amazing how when everyone does their "roles" the team wins.
Cal and Julio = power
JP = hitting the other way
Williamson = paying his way as a rookie

Now we just have to get Polanco and Randy going again.

I'd love to replace at least one of a Garver / Taveras / Solano at the deadline.
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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 28, 2025 2:48 pm

You look at the players teams have been adding, the angels, Red Sox, taveras isn't that bad. Didn't the Angels have a shot at him before the mariners? The mariners paid money for him, doubt he's going anywhere though I guess that depends on what happens when everyone is healthy

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 28, 2025 2:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:14 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:05 am
Dylan Moore now has 6 extra base hits off right handed pitching in 84 plate appearances... they sit him against righty starters.

Mitch Garver and Donovan Solano have a combined 2 extra base hits off left handed pitchers in 109 plate appearances and they PLATOON AGAINST LEFTIES.
They can't be looking at any of those numbers. Why do they even have an analytics Dept.????
Their decisions on to platoon on those kinds of small sample sizes

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed May 28, 2025 2:58 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:48 pm
You look at the players teams have been adding, the angels, Red Sox, taveras isn't that bad. Didn't the Angels have a shot at him before the mariners? The mariners paid money for him, doubt he's going anywhere
I agree on Taveras. He is a good substitute until Raley and Robles return.
Even if they put him as DH/4th outfielder I'd be O.K. with that too.
Problem is we have too many peeps rotating out of that DH role.
Seems like Polanco lives there now only vs. righties. Yikes.
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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 28, 2025 3:07 pm

They paid close to $3 mil for him, that's a pretty aggressive move for them. See he's been even worse since joining them

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by bpj » Wed May 28, 2025 3:23 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:14 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:05 am
Dylan Moore now has 6 extra base hits off right handed pitching in 84 plate appearances... they sit him against righty starters.

Mitch Garver and Donovan Solano have a combined 2 extra base hits off left handed pitchers in 109 plate appearances and they PLATOON AGAINST LEFTIES.
They can't be looking at any of those numbers. Why do they even have an analytics Dept.????
Their decisions on to platoon on those kinds of small sample sizes
No, instead they rely on numbers from a players career, or the last few years, instead of the current reality.

That's how we end up with bums pinch hitting for guys who have a chance to hit the ball.

Their analytics department is ass. Was obvious as soon as they hired the loser Dave Cameron.

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by DavidGee24 » Wed May 28, 2025 4:47 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:48 pm
You look at the players teams have been adding, the angels, Red Sox, taveras isn't that bad. Didn't the Angels have a shot at him before the mariners? The mariners paid money for him, doubt he's going anywhere though I guess that depends on what happens when everyone is healthy
You might want to look at his stat sheet, he's ass. OPS of .572, 2/20 BB/K ratio, minus 0.1 WAR. His career arc doesn't look promising either. He's a guy the team wins in spite of, not because of.

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Re: 5/27 Nationals vs. Mariners GT

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed May 28, 2025 5:19 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:51 am
harmony wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:49 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 2:57 am
Despite his big HR numbers, Cal probably has a below average Clutch.
Check out the Clutch Stats and Leverage numbers for Cal Raleigh this year:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... r=2025&t=b

Scroll down.
Probably the most clutch player on the team if not the league:

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Fangraphs seems to disagree...

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0.03 Clutch is barely above average. There must be a significant difference between what is considered a "high leverage" situation and what is considered a "clutch" situation. Probably leverage is independent of the overall game situation.

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