D-Trains Off season plan

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:32 pm

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:20 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:21 am
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Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:49 am
What about about this.

Trade #1: TB for Yandy Diaz & either Edwin Uceta or Garrett Cleavinger

Trade #2 : Cardinals for Brendan Donovan

Solves your 3B problem in addition to another bat for 1B, hoping Naylor re-signs & another bullpen piece.

That I can live with along with bringing back Naylor & hopefully Polanco too.
How does that solve your 3B problem?
Stick him at either 2nd then. I mean do you have any suggestions there DT haven't heard any. Donovan can play either. Nobody here really wants Williamson or Emerson at 3rd for some unknown reason. If you re-sign both Polanco & trade for Donovan that solves your issue right there. New idea here how's this. The big move I've heard bandied about is for Byron Buxton. Obviously injuries are a concern there but with Julio cemented in CF that would obviously mean Buxton would either have to switch to a corner spot or DH mostly. Defense & bat have never been an issue & I just wonder if Minny would be willing to sell low on him given his health. If your JD you jump at that opportunity. No reason why you can't inquire.

Trade #1: TB for Yandy Diaz & Edwin Uceta

Trade #2: Cardinals for Brendan Donovan

Sign Okamoto & Re-sign Naylor & Polanco

Other than that role with Williamson or Emerson at 3B. Those trades would make a huge difference & are low cost in terms of prospects as well as money. Can't argue with that can you.
You are asking me if I have ideas on my off season plan thread. Go back to the OP, that's it, those are my ideas, that's the plan. lol

I am not sure who you are saying to stick at 2B. They can't afford to sign all three of Oka, Naylor and Polanco and if you trade for Donovan you don't need Polo.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:38 pm

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:24 am
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He needs to sell to either Chris Hansen or my choice & probably most people's choice, Steve Ballmer. Steve Ballmer is worth 100x what that POS Stanton is worth & is so well liked by fans. He actually wants to win. If he wanted to buy there's no offer that's too much for him. 3 billion to him is chump change sorry. If our pussy media put more pressure on him maybe it'd have effect. Spineless is what they are. All of them. And yet people wanna bitch about east coast media. At least they care.
Guessing Hansen isn't a baseball fan? I despise Ballmer. The Sonics would still be here if he was such and idiot Buffoon. Paid 6x more for the Clippers than he could have bought the Sonics for just a few years earlier but was too busy running MSFT into the ground.
Maybe the Nordstrom family is interested. Someone should ask them.
They sold the Seahawks 37 years ago for $80M (less than Josh Naylor is expected to get in FA) after only owning them for 12 years. Guessing they won't be getting back into the would of sports ownership now the the M's are worth $2.2B (almost 28x the amount they sold the Hawks for).
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:16 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:53 am
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Say there are three holes in the line up at the end of each season. Jerry would rather fill them with three guys with 1 WAR than 1 guy with 5 WAR and two replacement players.
The three one war players are replacement to begin with. I don't see where this adds a 5 war player. He does that by extending Cal and Julio
Prior to 2023 and 2024 he spent about $50M for zero WAR on about a half dozen players. If he would have just added 1 $25M player each season he would have added 6-8 WAR.
It doesn't turn on annual salary it's total contract. You can't cobble together a 3-5 war player by subtracting the salaries of 3 or 4 one war players. The 3-5 war player is going to require a significant contract, that's the hangup. It's what their up against with Naylor. That's really how they have attacked it, with trades, rather than FA signings, Polanco, winker, Hernandez

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:13 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:24 am
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:01 am
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The sad reality is that just because a player makes sense it has no impact on the chances of us signing him or trading for him unless we can get him for cheap and $200M might as well be $200 trillion. That is what it is until we have new ownership.

He needs to sell to either Chris Hansen or my choice & probably most people's choice, Steve Ballmer. Steve Ballmer is worth 100x what that POS Stanton is worth & is so well liked by fans. He actually wants to win. If he wanted to buy there's no offer that's too much for him. 3 billion to him is chump change sorry. If our pussy media put more pressure on him maybe it'd have effect. Spineless is what they are. All of them. And yet people wanna bitch about east coast media. At least they care.
Guessing Hansen isn't a baseball fan? I despise Ballmer. The Sonics would still be here if he was such and idiot Buffoon. Paid 6x more for the Clippers than he could have bought the Sonics for just a few years earlier but was too busy running MSFT into the ground.
I don't think he had any interest in the sonics, I think buying the clippers was more about sitting court side in LA doing his antics with celebrities than it was really running a basketball team. He wanted to be in LA, that's why he paid so much

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:31 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:16 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:53 am


The three one war players are replacement to begin with. I don't see where this adds a 5 war player. He does that by extending Cal and Julio
Prior to 2023 and 2024 he spent about $50M for zero WAR on about a half dozen players. If he would have just added 1 $25M player each season he would have added 6-8 WAR.
It doesn't turn on annual salary it's total contract. You can't cobble together a 3-5 war player by subtracting the salaries of 3 or 4 one war players. The 3-5 war player is going to require a significant contract, that's the hangup. It's what their up against with Naylor. That's really how they have attacked it, with trades, rather than FA signings, Polanco, winker, Hernandez
Guess what when you sign or trade 3 mopes for 1 year you have to replace them the following year so you are still paying the same $25-$30 million EVERY season. Doesn't really matter if it is trades or FA. Arb 3 guys are making almost as much as FAs.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:34 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:13 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:24 am
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:01 am


He needs to sell to either Chris Hansen or my choice & probably most people's choice, Steve Ballmer. Steve Ballmer is worth 100x what that POS Stanton is worth & is so well liked by fans. He actually wants to win. If he wanted to buy there's no offer that's too much for him. 3 billion to him is chump change sorry. If our pussy media put more pressure on him maybe it'd have effect. Spineless is what they are. All of them. And yet people wanna bitch about east coast media. At least they care.
Guessing Hansen isn't a baseball fan? I despise Ballmer. The Sonics would still be here if he was such and idiot Buffoon. Paid 6x more for the Clippers than he could have bought the Sonics for just a few years earlier but was too busy running MSFT into the ground.
I don't think he had any interest in the sonics, I think buying the clippers was more about sitting court side in LA doing his antics with celebrities than it was really running a basketball team. He wanted to be in LA, that's why he paid so much
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:47 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:31 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:16 am


Prior to 2023 and 2024 he spent about $50M for zero WAR on about a half dozen players. If he would have just added 1 $25M player each season he would have added 6-8 WAR.
It doesn't turn on annual salary it's total contract. You can't cobble together a 3-5 war player by subtracting the salaries of 3 or 4 one war players. The 3-5 war player is going to require a significant contract, that's the hangup. It's what their up against with Naylor. That's really how they have attacked it, with trades, rather than FA signings, Polanco, winker, Hernandez
Guess what when you sign or trade 3 mopes for 1 year you have to replace them the following year so you are still paying the same $25-$30 million EVERY season. Doesn't really matter if it is trades or FA. Arb 3 guys are making almost as much as FAs.
But does signing one mope to a large contact really raise your odds of the money being better spent? I think the difficulties with T-Mobile has dampened their enthusiasm with long commitments. That's why they have focused on extending their own players. Naylor is an interesting case since he seems to hit well there. I think they probably had thoughts of extending Winker and Hernandez when they traded for them. I dont see them committing a large contact to a hitter that they don't have experience with

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:34 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:13 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:24 am


Guessing Hansen isn't a baseball fan? I despise Ballmer. The Sonics would still be here if he was such and idiot Buffoon. Paid 6x more for the Clippers than he could have bought the Sonics for just a few years earlier but was too busy running MSFT into the ground.
I don't think he had any interest in the sonics, I think buying the clippers was more about sitting court side in LA doing his antics with celebrities than it was really running a basketball team. He wanted to be in LA, that's why he paid so much
That's true, I'd forgotten the Sacramento deal. I don't remember the rest of it, anyway he's a lot happier in LA

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:59 pm

And he hasn't won shit. 3-8 this season. lol 6 1st round exits. Only one conference final. No final. lol
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Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:17 pm

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And he hasn't won shit. 3-8 this season. lol 6 1st round exits. Only one conference final. No final. lol

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loser? Heck the Ballmer story these days is how he's a cheater and a liar.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawh ... on-claims/

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