OT Breaking Trump and Melania have Covid

[bpj]

Don't throw gas on the fire, Bob. Don't throw gas...

Oh what the hell...

For the sake of argument, lets say Covid is no worse than a bad case of the flu, and your boss has it. Now lets say your boss has a bad case of cabin fever, so he makes you get in his (hermetically sealed) car with him so you can drive him around for a bit. Now you may like your job enough to go along, but are there ANY of you who wouldn't, at the very least, think your boss is a Grade A asshole?

Hopefully none of the Secret Service agents come down with Covid as a result of Trump's little forced photo op/joyride, but the reality is there is absolutely ZERO reason they were put in that position. And infected or not, they will now have to quarantine for two weeks but I'm sure there are plenty of Trump supporters who will spin that into their having a two-week "vacation" or something. Somehow I'm not buying Trump's little speech about suddenly taking Covid seriously...

You never believe anything the president says anyway....your mind is made up no matter how many times the president held a COVID daily briefing and you know why...because your media said so

My comment about Trump taking things seriously was in reference to the Twitter video he did that talked about how he now has first hand Covid experience instead of just theoretical knowledge (I read the comments but didn't watch the video, and I'm paraphrasing) I apologize for any confusion that may have happened, but here is my point-
Shortly after making this Twitter video Trump decides that being infectious shouldn't prevent him from a photo op, even though doing so puts several of his Secret Service agents at risk. This decision makes me question how seriously Trump really takes being contagious. Also, I'm looking at pictures of what appears to be a masked DJT waving from the window of a vehicle being driven around by a couple of Secret Service agents, which I assume really happened. So, based not on some "fake news" supposedly fed to me by "my media" but by my own two eyes, I stand by my original assertion that this unnecessary photo op was kind of an asshole move on Trump's part and was totally unnecessary.
Now I'm sure some of you will be jumping to defend Trump on this one, but I have better things to do today than follow along with whatever "logic" defending Trump may take. So, (as I used to tell one of my foster kids when he started ranting and whining about everything under the sun) "How 'bout them Mariners?"

The fake news was spreading everything from he's deathly ill, to he's not even really there.

Trump shut their stupid faces up with the quickness. It's not a tough puzzle to solve.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

You're embarrassing yourself.

Says the guy who spent a whole day trying to piece together old posts from Donn Gorgon about Mallex Smith to get him to leave the board? And then when Darren told you to shut the fuck up because other members were complaining about your idiocy (he called you by your first name ), you doubled down like a 5 year old who didn't get his way? It was hilarious to watch your meltdown.

And you want to talk about embarrassing?

Wouldn't expect your tiny lib brain to grasp what actually happened. Don't think its lost on me how it's all you libs jumping to his defense. And we know that's why you did it.

Your tantrums since then show what you're really triggered about.

BPJ at all hours of the day:

[bpj]

It's hard to be too mad about anything when I'm right.

I'm the one that understands you people are a lost cause. I just stay on my toes because you people are wrong so often I don't want anyone falling for your half-truths.

[gil]

It's a big part of human nature to look for ways to convince that new information confirms what we already believe. I'll be the first to raise my hand to say that I do that. But I also resist it as much as possible (i.e., I want to judge things at face value, and if there is contradictory evidence I want to figure out as best I can). Sometimes the world is complex, and not simple (good guys versus bad guys for example).

I watched Laura Ingraham say that the True getting the virus now proves that it isn't easy to get, because he has had so many contacts with people over the months, and if it were easy to get, he would have had it earlier. OK then.

I watched Hannity say that Trump was in the hospital out of an abundance of caution. And then I read that Trump has been treated with (I think I have this right) remdesivir, dexamethasone, and an experimental antibody drug. And has received supplemental oxygen. But Hannity downplays the seriousness of the President's case.

Very few people get it. It's not serious for most people. The statistics are misleading. And it it is serious and that statistics are true, it's all China's fault anyway.

[bpj]

Right now is one of those good versus bad times.

Hannity didn't downplay it, the President was hardly affected and received the treatments every patient should be getting.

Now he's walking out like it never happened and you guys are trying so hard to reconcile in your minds, you're just incapable.

[bpj]

Oh man, as I said, liberals heads are going to explode.

[bpj]

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[gil]

Right now is one of those good versus bad times.

Hannity didn't downplay it, the President was hardly affected and received the treatments every patient should be getting.

Now he's walking out like it never happened and you guys are trying so hard to reconcile in your minds, you're just incapable.

I wouldn't say that his needing supplemental oxygen is "hardly affected." And maybe everyone *should* get those treatments, but they don't.

But I do hope he walks out like it never happened. And whether he does, or whether he turns out to have a severe case, I hope no one tries to score political points.

[gil]

He isn't intolerant he didn't treat it like a joke. He banned travel from China and the left called him a racist for it while they encouraged people to head down to China town to party.

You make some good points, dt. And I think if we could turn back the clock to March 1 ... and know what we know NOW ... I would say this: Trump was right. WHO was wrong, and Fauci was wrong. Calling Trump a racist for the China travel "ban" was wrong. Encouraging partying in Chinatown was wrong. Encouraging going to the gym was wrong. But ...

The world didn't stop on March 1, and Trump didn't take advantage of what he had done to that point. There wasn't a "ban" on travel from China, it was restrictions, and lots of people still came in. The restrictions on travel from Europe were too late. And too loose. He gave in to his concern for the stock market. He didn't listen to the scientists who kept learning things after March 1. (Just because they were wrong about some things doesn't mean they were wrong about everything. The scientific community is constantly learning about contagion and aerosols and masks and everything else about this.) He didn't mobilize testing or contact testing fast enough.

Worst of all, to me, he broadcast his lack of concern and made it a partisan issue. It's under control, only the elderly get sick, it's just like the flu or a cold, it's getting better. He belittled people wearing masks. I think that if he had been as good from March 1 to May 1 as he had been before that, this while thing could have been behind us. We would have peaked around April 1 (as I recall that your model predicted) but Trump didn't do what needed to be done.

Trump didn't stop on March 1st either, he has never quit fighting this virus...He has never stoped doing his joband he's not been perfect, but a hell of lot better than anything Obama or Biden did or could have done. He has more than one concern, health, law and order, community safety, security, prosperity, peace... all vital parts of the overall picture... as a businessman, he understands the disaster of shutting down a small business that someone worked his whole life to build, economic health is just as important as physical health, it's easy to criticize, but maybe you ought to take the log beam out of your eye before you bring up the speck in Trump's eye. Trump organized the military, the government, and the private sector in an unparralled manner to respond to this virus, he has left no stone unturned. Who is responsible for the burning of city buildings and apartments, for the looting of markets and stores, for the ambushing and injuring of law enforcement? Who's responsible for the framing of General Flynn, for the millions spent on a Russia Hoax, for corruption in the Ukraine, for a false impeachment? BYW, he has never belittled anyone wearing masks, he never made it a partisan issue, but brought in scientists and physicians from both sides of the aisle and gave them public platforms. And he's no racist, homophobic, or any other of the slanders and smears levelled at him by an ugly partisan press stoking hatred and division... Glad for your honesty concerning the World Health Organization... and some declarations by Fauci...I wish more on the left would convey at least some honesty...

Thanks AT. I still think Trump has made mistakes, particular with masks. Some governors (ok, maybe most) have made mistakes too.

Remember when we all said that the virus was mostly affecting the "blue states" of the Northeast? As of today, per capita cases in New York, which were the highest in the country for a long time, are 15th among the states. 1-14 are Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, North Dakota, Georgia, Arizona, Tennessee, Iowa, South Carolina, Arkansas, South Dakota, Texas, and Nevada. I attribute this to less mask wearing and fewer after precautions in general.

[bpj]

I'm sure you wouldn't.

I've had supplemental oxygen in a Las Vegas bar for a rush. Whoopitydoo.

Sorry gil, the political points are there to be had. Covid's canceled. Blue states have destroyed themselves even while being urged otherwise by Trump.

Everybody sees it.