Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pm
Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
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Disagree, WAR be damned.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Josh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Add a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pmJosh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Our DH's -0.4 WAR
Net 2.8 WAR
Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.
Rodon 2.8 WAR, Kirby 0.2 WAR.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pmAdd a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pmJosh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Our DH's -0.4 WAR
Net 2.8 WAR
Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.
But noooooo.
Wow. I did not realize Rodon was that much better. Incredible.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:05 pmAnd that's the problem. This team keeps the guys who are "good enough", and fails to add the guys that would make us better.Pharmabro wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:35 amI am just fine with that #5 Brash he has great stuff he just can't keep it in the zone. But Kirby can and he is right at a 100 ERA+ after he got lit up 2 starts ago and added a run to his ERA.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:18 amIf this season were a game of poker the Mariners called a couple bets, but they sure didn't push all in.
They could have done way, way more. Instead they called it good with a rookie in the #5 SP spot who has since been made a reliever, and a backup catcher as the DH leaving us way light on depth.
Was obvious they could have done more = they didn't try hard enough to make the playoffs.
The truth is I don't see a lot of holes if they are relatively healthy. (Spare an elite left-handed BP guy)
ERA+
Ray: 102
Gilbert: 138
Flexen: 92
Kirby: 99
Marco: 114
Meanwhile:
Rodon: 145
Letting Kirby and Flexen (and Marco) in the rotation blocks a better pitcher from being in it. It's not rocket science.
Is not semantics. Saying that he said he was going to add is just plain not true. They said they were going to look into it. They never said they were going to. Disagree with what they did, fine, but they didn't ever say they were for sure going to add someone.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:33 pm
That's just semantics. They said they were interesting in/going after/whatever a TOR and once they understood the price they bailed.
They didn't finish the job with the rotation, the pen and the lineup and hoped for the best. One of the three worked out and here we are.