Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Case_Of_The_Runs » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:25 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:11 pm
Case_Of_The_Runs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:57 pm
Classy.

And yet he chose to play for a team whose fan base is largely liberal in a city whose politics are largely liberal.

Go figure.

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Huh? He signed before the 2019 season before Biden was even running for POTUS. How did he know he was going to be elected and become the worst POTUS of our lifetime.
I'm not sure what you mean. The political demographics of San Diego were well known before the 2019 election. A surf city, in California, with a bustling college population, close to the Mexican border...? I'm not sure how you can't not know that when picking a city.

My point is simply that the politics of a city or state is likely insignificant in the calculus of choosing where to play. If it were, then black or Hispanic players who engage with BLM politics or immigration policies would never play for Texas, or Houston, or Colorado or Atlanta. It is a non-issue.

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by D-train » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:54 pm

How do you know he isn't a liberal. Maybe he just hates shitty POTUSs
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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Case_Of_The_Runs » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:01 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:54 pm
How do you know he isn't a liberal. Maybe he just hates shitty POTUSs
Well, I feel like I'm being baited here.

The answer is - I don't. But if he is, then he is either stupid and doesn't know what the t-shirt means, or he is a hypocrite, or he is trying to be ironic. Or he doesn't like Joe Biden. The fact is - it doesn't matter. None of what you are asking invalidates the argument that politics is likely a non-issue when FA are determining where to sign.

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by D-train » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:04 pm

Case_Of_The_Runs wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:01 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:54 pm
How do you know he isn't a liberal. Maybe he just hates shitty POTUSs
Well, I feel like I'm being baited here.

The answer is - I don't. But if he is, then he is either stupid and doesn't know what the t-shirt means, or he is a hypocrite, or he is trying to be ironic. Or he doesn't like Joe Biden. The fact is - it doesn't matter. None of what you are asking invalidates the argument that politics is likely a non-issue when FA are determining where to sign.
Agreed. If conservative players cared about it they would be limited to Houston, Dallas and maybe STL and KC.
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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:20 pm

Liberal and Leftist are not the same. Don't confuse them. Cities and States run by leftists do have policies that are so bad as to possibly dissuade any sane person, liberal or conservative, from moving there, all other things being close to equal.

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:29 pm

Players don't need to have anything to do with the city a team is based other than wear a uniform with it's name on it. There is no requirement for them to live there. You are not required to be there during the off season, and during the season you are gone half the time and busy as fuck the other half. I can't even begin to imagine ones polical beliefs somehow dictating what baseball team a player decided to play for. If it did that have to be one heck of a dedicated political point of view

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Case_Of_The_Runs » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:35 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:20 pm
Liberal and Leftist are not the same. Don't confuse them. Cities and States run by leftists do have policies that are so bad as to possibly dissuade any sane person, liberal or conservative, from moving there, all other things being close to equal.
Perhaps. But if true, it cuts both ways. Ideologically governed cities or states could be palatable to either political stripe.

But again - should it matter to a MLB player? I don't know - I'm not an MLB player. But logically it doesn't seem to be an issue is persuading or dissuading players from signing somewhere, and the data don't seem to suggest it is relevant.

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:43 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:29 pm
Players don't need to have anything to do with the city a team is based other than wear a uniform with it's name on it. There is no requirement for them to live there. You are not required to be there during the off season, and during the season you are gone half the time and busy as fuck the other half. I can't even begin to imagine ones polical beliefs somehow dictating what baseball team a player decided to play for. If it did that have to be one heck of a dedicated political point of view
What about their wives and children? Aren't they generally stuck wherever the player plays?

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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by D-train » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:44 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:29 pm
Players don't need to have anything to do with the city a team is based other than wear a uniform with it's name on it. There is no requirement for them to live there. You are not required to be there during the off season, and during the season you are gone half the time and busy as fuck the other half. I can't even begin to imagine ones polical beliefs somehow dictating what baseball team a player decided to play for. If it did that have to be one heck of a dedicated political point of view
SH's point isn't that they need to care about politics but rather that if the politics are leftist it will impact their quality of life. Walking through shit stained homeless camps to get to their DT condo for example.
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Re: Ok let's bust these idiotic myths once and for all

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:18 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:43 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:29 pm
Players don't need to have anything to do with the city a team is based other than wear a uniform with it's name on it. There is no requirement for them to live there. You are not required to be there during the off season, and during the season you are gone half the time and busy as fuck the other half. I can't even begin to imagine ones polical beliefs somehow dictating what baseball team a player decided to play for. If it did that have to be one heck of a dedicated political point of view
What about their wives and children? Aren't they generally stuck wherever the player plays?
Wives and children don't have to live there, seems to me a majority of baseball players live in Florida or Arizona. But if they do want to have their family there, it doesn't have to be Seattle. They can live in granite falls

Todd Boss, former player and now Nationals blogger on the topic... where do baseball players live
.some sign long-term deals and buy homes near their home stadium since they know they’ll be there for a while and they can get their family settled.
some maintain homes where they’re comfortable; where they grew up or where it makes most sense for their family.

some move to be close to their spring training sites, in Florida or Arizona. There’s some stories out there about players who reside in the Tampa area off-season who specifically pick FA destinations based on spring training proximity to their houses.

some pick locations that have the least income tax implications. Florida, Texas are big for this … even though it doesn’t end up having that big of an impact on their annual earnings since they’re taxed per day.
New York players rent in Longis
Interesting, it could be more important where the team trains in the spring than where the city is located. Seems to me I have heard those stories, that's what it can turn on, the spring training location

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