bpj wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:37 pm
About 1/6th of Swansons appearances this season were "High Leverage", amounting to about 8 innings this season. Not much, but he had done it before, and the only reason he hadn't done it more was because we had better options. It's not a knock on Swanson.
Boyd was a badass for us since he got here, this was basically what he was here for. Left handed opponents had a .317 OPS against Boyd this season. That's
OPS, not AVG.
Ray was a struggling starter they took out of the rotation in his first relief appearance with the game on the line against one of the top hitters in the game.
Defend it all you want, but they took a big chance and it backfired. They deserve every bit of blame they get.
I get it, but you are saying Robbie Ray hasn't pitched 8 high leverage innings this year?
I get the Boyd reasoning, but again, you CAN'T use the argument that Ray isn't used in those situations so it was a bad move and then say the guy with 8 years in the Majors and ZERO saves is the way to go. Doesn't work both ways.
Ray was a struggling starter they took out of the rotation in his first relief appearance with the game on the line against one of the top hitters in the game.
That is the best one sentence answer yet. And one I don't disagree with. Sucks, and I wish he hadn't thrown the second fastball. I just think many are over simplifying this. I promise you, if they went to Boyd and he gave up the moon shot, many in here would have blasted SS for using a guy in that situation who has zero saves in 8 years.
Players need to make plays, and our last three pitchers sucked ass....yet we act like the two guys that didn't get in obviously wouldn't have. Just rired of reading SS can't manage a bullpen. Fucking A, we blew our first 7th inning lead to Cleveland in August! That is pretty fucking impressive. The graphic might have actually been first two run lead, but still. The guy who got them to mid August like that, can't manage a bullpen?
This team has a dogshit offense, and has for two years, in comparison to playoff teams. And we were one game away last year and playing in the ALDS this year. SS is doing something right. Just blows me away how many guys in here seem to think that all it would take is this move or that move by SS and all of a sudden we are in the World Series. This team is limited, and that is why we lost. The game was set up, just the way SS wanted it, and two guys that make a lot of money flat out fucking blew it. Maybe another pitcher not Robbie Ray gets that out, but good lord, make the outs before. Munoz fucked up when he allowed them to even have Altuve as the third hitter in inning 9, and that fucker Sewald doubled down that mistake by walking some chump rookie in the 9 hole that what, swung the bat once in his six pitch AB?
Players lost this game, yet if he had gone to Boyd and Boyd gave up the homer, SS still would have received the blame. I don't get it. Most of the guys bitching about SS for losing the game also bitch about the Front Office for not adding enough talent! Ridiculous. Either we don't have talent, or the manager misused the talent, but not in this place. It's both.