Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Do you sign Trevor Bauer with his baggage?

Poll ended at Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:42 am

Yes
9
43%
No
10
48%
Maybe, If we get him at an extreme discount
2
10%
 
Total votes: 21

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by bpj » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:40 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm
Seems like just about every year there's a Latin player that gets in trouble for beating their wives and they keep their jobs.

But against Bauer, in a case where the girl asked for "all the pain", had her restraining order denied, and no charges were brought against him, he's a pariah...

Marcell Ozuna can (allegedly) strangle his wife when he actually was charged with battery and assault, and get a DUI and still be a Brave, but Bauer's an outcast over what appears to be mutual...

Same people that want the Mariners to be like the Braves don't want Bauer though...

Makes sense... typical hypocrites.
Just for the record, I wouldn't want Marcell Ozuna on this team either brother. My personal feelings on my vote were solely based on team chemistry. I know not everyone would agree with that assessment, but if we're asking for a reason as to why, it's because I don't think he'd be a good fit in the locker room. Who knows, I could be wrong. Nobody has a crystal ball.

And DT, I like Geno, and believe in second chances. But there's a reason as to why I want Seattle to take a QB in the upcoming draft.
Sure, I don't fault your personal feelings.

I only care about winning, the players on the team are just a means to an end. I don't buy jerseys, I don't care about them much individually. Actively dislike several of them.

The kumbaya locker room is of no concern to me when there's talent on the field capable of winning.

Good locker rooms haven't gotten us anywhere.

But that's just my personal feeling on it too.

Obviously the Mariners are even less likely to go after Bauer than the Dodgers.

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:11 am

bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:40 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm
Seems like just about every year there's a Latin player that gets in trouble for beating their wives and they keep their jobs.

But against Bauer, in a case where the girl asked for "all the pain", had her restraining order denied, and no charges were brought against him, he's a pariah...

Marcell Ozuna can (allegedly) strangle his wife when he actually was charged with battery and assault, and get a DUI and still be a Brave, but Bauer's an outcast over what appears to be mutual...

Same people that want the Mariners to be like the Braves don't want Bauer though...

Makes sense... typical hypocrites.
Just for the record, I wouldn't want Marcell Ozuna on this team either brother. My personal feelings on my vote were solely based on team chemistry. I know not everyone would agree with that assessment, but if we're asking for a reason as to why, it's because I don't think he'd be a good fit in the locker room. Who knows, I could be wrong. Nobody has a crystal ball.

And DT, I like Geno, and believe in second chances. But there's a reason as to why I want Seattle to take a QB in the upcoming draft.
Sure, I don't fault your personal feelings.

I only care about winning, the players on the team are just a means to an end. I don't buy jerseys, I don't care about them much individually. Actively dislike several of them.

The kumbaya locker room is of no concern to me when there's talent on the field capable of winning.

Good locker rooms haven't gotten us anywhere.

But that's just my personal feeling on it too.

Obviously the Mariners are even less likely to go after Bauer than the Dodgers.
I can respect that. Winker certainly didn't affect the successful season we had last year, even though it was said he had ruffled some feathers in the clubhouse. Losing Graveman definitely did not help. I'm not sure how much it affected our win total. But the clubhouse was more torn against the FO than I've seen it in awhile.

I want to win more than anyone too. If the guys on the team could overlook Bauer's personal misconduct, dumbass female(s) be damned, then I could too. I do find it harder to root for guys if they come off as a pariah. But if they producing, well it's easier to overlook.

At the beginning of last season, I would have said, don't blow our salary on pitching depth from outside the organization. Conserve it for better hitting athletes. I believe 100% that that is all a sham. For once I'd like to see us open our wallets to not just make the team better, but as an act of fucking faith from ownership that this team is actually worth throwing money at. Success or not. That being said, if we signed Bauer, I wouldn't be upset about it. It's no wonder free agents don't want to come here. The Mariners are cheap bastards. And not just to their players, but to their employees and fans as well.

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by bpj » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:25 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:11 am
bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:40 pm


Just for the record, I wouldn't want Marcell Ozuna on this team either brother. My personal feelings on my vote were solely based on team chemistry. I know not everyone would agree with that assessment, but if we're asking for a reason as to why, it's because I don't think he'd be a good fit in the locker room. Who knows, I could be wrong. Nobody has a crystal ball.

And DT, I like Geno, and believe in second chances. But there's a reason as to why I want Seattle to take a QB in the upcoming draft.
Sure, I don't fault your personal feelings.

I only care about winning, the players on the team are just a means to an end. I don't buy jerseys, I don't care about them much individually. Actively dislike several of them.

The kumbaya locker room is of no concern to me when there's talent on the field capable of winning.

Good locker rooms haven't gotten us anywhere.

But that's just my personal feeling on it too.

Obviously the Mariners are even less likely to go after Bauer than the Dodgers.
I can respect that. Winker certainly didn't affect the successful season we had last year, even though it was said he had ruffled some feathers in the clubhouse. Losing Graveman definitely did not help. I'm not sure how much it affected our win total. But the clubhouse was more torn against the FO than I've seen it in awhile.

I want to win more than anyone too. If the guys on the team could overlook Bauer's personal misconduct, dumbass female(s) be damned, then I could too. I do find it harder to root for guys if they come off as a pariah. But if they producing, well it's easier to overlook.

At the beginning of last season, I would have said, don't blow our salary on pitching depth from outside the organization. Conserve it for better hitting athletes. I believe 100% that that is all a sham. For once I'd like to see us open our wallets to not just make the team better, but as an act of fucking faith from ownership that this team is actually worth throwing money at. Success or not. That being said, if we signed Bauer, I wouldn't be upset about it. It's no wonder free agents don't want to come here. The Mariners are cheap bastards. And not just to their players, but to their employees and fans as well.
Yep, good stuff big sexy.

One thing though, from what I remember we had a better team win percentage after the Graveman trade despite a short period of adjustment, so it's hard to even say that was much of a negative.

*Looked it up, they were 55-47 at the time of the trade, a .539 winning percentage.

They went 35-25 to finish the season, a .583 winning percentage.

Not definitive proof or anything, but the team didn't exactly tank.

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by GL_Storm » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:01 am

bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 pm

The kumbaya locker room is of no concern to me when there's talent on the field capable of winning.
"Team Chemistry" in baseball is wildly overemphasized by journalists, media, bloggers, etc. I'm not saying that you shouldn't strive to put together a team that likes one another, but it really is the least important factor.

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by Captain 97 » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:13 am

Yeah Chemistry is probably the least important in baseball of any of the major sports. When you think about it, other than the pitcher and the catcher and the occasional double play, there is not really much in baseball that requires you to have perfect synchronicity with your teammates. On the offensive side its all about the individual at the plate and in the field its all about just doing your job and making the play when the ball is hit to you. If you have such a fragile psyche to the point where having an A hole for a teammate is causing you to not be able to hit or field a ground ball, you probably don't have the mental fortitude for this game anyway.

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:52 am

bpj wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:25 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:11 am
bpj wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 pm


Sure, I don't fault your personal feelings.

I only care about winning, the players on the team are just a means to an end. I don't buy jerseys, I don't care about them much individually. Actively dislike several of them.

The kumbaya locker room is of no concern to me when there's talent on the field capable of winning.

Good locker rooms haven't gotten us anywhere.

But that's just my personal feeling on it too.

Obviously the Mariners are even less likely to go after Bauer than the Dodgers.
I can respect that. Winker certainly didn't affect the successful season we had last year, even though it was said he had ruffled some feathers in the clubhouse. Losing Graveman definitely did not help. I'm not sure how much it affected our win total. But the clubhouse was more torn against the FO than I've seen it in awhile.

I want to win more than anyone too. If the guys on the team could overlook Bauer's personal misconduct, dumbass female(s) be damned, then I could too. I do find it harder to root for guys if they come off as a pariah. But if they producing, well it's easier to overlook.

At the beginning of last season, I would have said, don't blow our salary on pitching depth from outside the organization. Conserve it for better hitting athletes. I believe 100% that that is all a sham. For once I'd like to see us open our wallets to not just make the team better, but as an act of fucking faith from ownership that this team is actually worth throwing money at. Success or not. That being said, if we signed Bauer, I wouldn't be upset about it. It's no wonder free agents don't want to come here. The Mariners are cheap bastards. And not just to their players, but to their employees and fans as well.
Yep, good stuff big sexy.

One thing though, from what I remember we had a better team win percentage after the Graveman trade despite a short period of adjustment, so it's hard to even say that was much of a negative.

*Looked it up, they were 55-47 at the time of the trade, a .539 winning percentage.

They went 35-25 to finish the season, a .583 winning percentage.

Not definitive proof or anything, but the team didn't exactly tank.
Lol I guess we need to talk shit about the front office more often.
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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by AZOldDawg » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:38 pm

Watch the Rangers throw caution to the winds and go get him

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by Big_Maple » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:02 pm

AZOldDawg wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:38 pm
Watch the Rangers throw caution to the winds and go get him
You may or may not be kidding here, but I have actually been wondering about the Rangers. They have a new stadium, and they are spending money on free agents like sailors on shore leave. Is it possible that they collapse financially? They're not a big market team, and they just don't seem to be making smart decisions. I mean they arguably got better a lot faster than the M's did, but not by tearing it down to the studs. Did they get too big, too fast by throwing big money at big name players?

Obviously, unless there is a bidding war (which I doubt there will be), if the Rangers did sign him, it wouldn't be for a lot with the Dodgers footing most of the bill. But they have an estimated overall budget of $197M...

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:22 pm

Dallas metropolitan area is ranked 5th in media size, 7th in population in terms of baseball, it's not a small market

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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

Post by D-train » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:27 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:02 pm
AZOldDawg wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:38 pm
Watch the Rangers throw caution to the winds and go get him
You may or may not be kidding here, but I have actually been wondering about the Rangers. They have a new stadium, and they are spending money on free agents like sailors on shore leave. Is it possible that they collapse financially? They're not a big market team, and they just don't seem to be making smart decisions. I mean they arguably got better a lot faster than the M's did, but not by tearing it down to the studs. Did they get too big, too fast by throwing big money at big name players?

Obviously, unless there is a bidding war (which I doubt there will be), if the Rangers did sign him, it wouldn't be for a lot with the Dodgers footing most of the bill. But they have an estimated overall budget of $197M...
I would say top 5 is a big market....

https://newsgeneration.com/broadcast-re ... o-markets/
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