Yes he does and that is more of a traditional 3B but if its a true platoon Rojas will get a lot more PAs. Guessing the guy that hits the best will end up with the lion's share of PT.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:37 amI was thinking in terms of power, thinkD-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:13 amWARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:51 amI don't see it as a competition, Urias needs to produce at 3rd base, if he doesn't you're not going to get significant production out of Rojas there. Really that's what the lineup turns on seems to me. If you can get Geno level production out of Urias then it looks pretty good
Rojas
2021 - 1.8
2022 - 2.7
2023 - 1.1
Total - 5.6
Urias
2021 - 2.1
2022 - 2.3
2023 - -0.1
Total - 4.3
Even ignoring 2023 Rojas is slightly better. Only advantage Urias has is age and Rojas is only 29 yo
Urias has more potential
Mariners acquire Jorge Polanco from the Twins!!!!!
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Honestly, I don't care where they move him 1-3, so long as he's mashing. It'll probably depend on whether the pitcher is a righty or lefty.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:51 amIf they don't move Julio down to 3rd they are idiots but I already know they are so they probably won't.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:07 amSS-Crawford
CF-JRod
2B-Polanco
C-Raleigh
DH-Garver
LF-Raley
1B-France
3B-Rojas
RF-Haniger
Looks pretty complete
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Really, I wouldn't think they move him around in the lineup
Re: Mariners acquire Jorge Polanco from the Twins!!!!!
Well if you care about us scoring runs we should care. We will almost assuredly score more runs with him hitting 3rd.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:15 pmHonestly, I don't care where they move him 1-3, so long as he's mashing. It'll probably depend on whether the pitcher is a righty or lefty.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:51 amIf they don't move Julio down to 3rd they are idiots but I already know they are so they probably won't.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:07 am
SS-Crawford
CF-JRod
2B-Polanco
C-Raleigh
DH-Garver
LF-Raley
1B-France
3B-Rojas
RF-Haniger
Looks pretty complete
btw Jerry has taught his lil buddy well with the "We have been on him for YEARS!!!!" line
“He’s a guy that we have liked and tried to acquire for years,” said Hollander. “I think I personally made more calls on this trade than I ever have on any trade before at the behest of both my own want to add him to our group, so a really big day for us. (I) feel like it makes us a lot better and excited to add him.”
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Well they have moved him around a bit but yeah they are idiots so probably keep him in the two hole because they is where he has performed the worst.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:19 pmReally, I wouldn't think they move him around in the lineup
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Yeah, should have him batting fifth.
Re: Mariners acquire Jorge Polanco from the Twins!!!!!
They've definitely raised the floor, no doubt.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:18 amThe OD lineup and Bench is massively objectively better than last season. Perhaps slightly better than it was in the second half when we finished 50-32 almost a 100 win pace.
Not sure there's any more upside than there was in previous years, but for a team built around pitching, they definitely have a chance to win 90+ if things go well.
Especially without a succubus on the team!
Re: Mariners acquire Jorge Polanco from the Twins!!!!!
I agree, they should.
But without any legitimate MOTO hitters on the team, I'd probably have him hitting third.
Raley I don't think belongs above 6th, but they obviously brought him in for a reason so he'll probably get his shot to hit. I'd have him hitting 8th.
Crawford
Polanco
Julio
Raley
Garver
Raleigh
Haniger
France
Urias/Rojas
Definitely a deep lineup
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We could debate this until the cows come home. I see many arguments for both sides.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:19 pmWell if you care about us scoring runs we should care. We will almost assuredly score more runs with him hitting 3rd.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:15 pmHonestly, I don't care where they move him 1-3, so long as he's mashing. It'll probably depend on whether the pitcher is a righty or lefty.
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“He’s a guy that we have liked and tried to acquire for years,” said Hollander. “I think I personally made more calls on this trade than I ever have on any trade before at the behest of both my own want to add him to our group, so a really big day for us. (I) feel like it makes us a lot better and excited to add him.”
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Yep.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:43 amWhat they should do is trade Urias for the best reliever that any team will give up for him and sign Chapman but of course they won't do that so I don't even bother to bring it up.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:18 amNot talking about Urias. Talking about Rojas.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:13 am
They're viewing last season as an outlier due to the injuries. He hit 39 home runs the previous two seasons
I don't have a lot of faith in Urias... cool if they do. But I'd prefer if they got a legit bat at the position.
It's just one of those positions that you really want a lot of offense from. Avg wRC+ for 3B's who played at least 100 games last year was 110... there were 2x massive outliers or it woulda been like 120...
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