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Win-Loss record:
Woo 14-7
Gilbert 4-6
Castillo 9-8
Kirby 8-7
Miller 4-5

What do you guys think it is that sets Woo apart in terms of being able to get a Win in the books?

Is it just his efficiency? Because he eliminates the low-talent middle relievers by getting deeper in the game because he doesn't waste pitches like the other guys do?

Is it "command"? His walks per 9 are by far the best of the bunch. So are his K/9...

The kid's good. (Bazardo has been amazing also, but a lot more walks)


Below is showing how many innings pitched they averaged per game started:

Woo 181.2 in 29 games is 6.25 IP per game
Gilbert 114.1 in 22 games is 5.2 IP per game
Castillo 167.1 in 30 games is 5.6 IP per game
Kirby 108.2 in 20 games is 5.4 IP per game
Miller 75.2 in 15 games is 5.0 IP per game

And pitches thrown per 9 IP:

Woo had 2647 pitches in 181.666 innings = 131 per 9IP
Gilbert (1901/114.666)*9= 149 per 9IP
Castillo (2811/167.333)*9= 151 per 9 IP
Kirby (1801/108.666)*9= 149 per 9IP
Miller (1302/75.666)*9= 155 per 9IP

He has the most wins because He is the best pitcher. He has the lowest ERA and the highest innings pitched. Its not rocket science.

He's been the best pitcher on the team all season. We still have no idea how things are going to shape up down the stretch, but it seems very possible the Ms will just be fighting the whole way. So, not sure if they'll be setting up their rotation for the post-season, but grabbing a bye would facilitate that also. (Detroit is within range!!!)

I mentioned Woo as #1 and I think D-trains said nope it will be Gilbert in game 1. I see his point as Gilbert has paid more dues, but I think you gotta try and maximize Woo. Not that it would ultimately make that much difference 1 vs 2. Woo has earned it though in my opinion and I think is the smarter move if just trying to give the team the best possible chance to win.

bpj wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:19 pm

What do you guys think it is that sets Woo apart in terms of being able to get a Win in the books?

Is it just his efficiency? Because he eliminates the low-talent middle relievers by getting deeper in the game because he doesn't waste pitches like the other guys do?

Probably as you say - if you are going to pitch 6 or more innings (he's gone 7 innings x 7 times as well) then you are in control of the outcome of the game - good or bad. You only hand your destiny over to the bullpen for 2 or 3 innings - less chance of Legumina fucking it up for you, for instance.

buster onley getting on the brian woo band wagon

The Mariners as a staff collectively this year own a bullpen ERA of 3.83. That is a bullpen ERA that ranks 11th in Major League Baseball. In the games in which Bryan Woo has started, that number goes down to 3.62, so that is slightly better.

But most remarkably, what I did was look at the earned run average of the Mariners’ bullpen in the game immediately following every Bryan Woo start, and that number is 1.82.

The Mariners’ bullpen has pitched to a sub-2.00 ERA in a fifth of their games in large part because of the length that Bryan Woo is providing them.

He has command of two plus pitches, his 4-seam fastball and his 2-seam sinker. He has three other pitches - slider, sweeper, and changeup - that grade out as average-ish. If he can upgrade one of those in the offseason, he'll be a Cy Young contender.