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Trades:

Mariners trade SP Luis Castillo, 2B Cole Young, SP Ryan Sloan, OF Tai Peete to the Tigers for SP Tarik Skubal, RHP Ty Madden

Rationale: I think the Tigers line up well as a trade partner for Castillo, especially in a deal for Skubal. Why? Because they're a team that still figures on contending even if they trade Skubal and Castillo helps fill the void in moving him. Maybe the M's have to throw a little money in to get a deal done, but the point still stands. Detroit's middle infield is a mess with a SS who put up -0.8 WAR and Gleyber Torres as a F/A. Young can slot into either position right away for them. Sloan gives them their elite starting pitching prospect back in the deal. Peete is a wild card with potential in the OF. Skubal is self explanatory for the M's. Ty Madden is an intriguing arm... a former 1st round pick, he struggled in the minors and was out all year with an injury. I see a move to the bullpen for him because there's some untapped potential in maxing out his fastball.

Mariners trade SP Logan Evans, 2B Michael Arroyo, SP Michael Morales to the Cardinals for 2B/3B Brendan Donovan

Rationale: I feel like the Cardinals would be after players who are MLB ready or close to it because they never figure on wanting a full rebuild. They've got a lot of young talent in house and Evans/Morales give them a couple arms they can slot into a very thin rotation sooner rather than later. Arroyo should get the majors at some point this year. In '27, this would give STL an infield at 2B/SS/3B of top 50 prospects in baseball all at the same time. Donovan is a clear fit for the M's at 2B... giving them elite D and contact at the position.

Mariners trade SS Felnin Celesten, OF Dom Canzone, SP Jurrangelo Cijntje, SP Emerson Hancock to the Diamondbacks for 2B/3B Ketel Marte, RHP Juan Morillo

Rationale: I think the Dbacks could use a combination of MLB-ready players and prospects in a return for Marte. Arizona has 2x top MI prospects in Lawler and Troy so I don't think they really need to target a direct replacement for Marte in a trade. Instead, they're horribly thin in the OF and an old friend in Dom Canzone could help out here. Cijntje gives them a stud starting pitching prospect that could be ready as soon as next year. Celesten gives them a top prospect to develop at SS and Hancock gives them a stop gap in their current rotation that has nothing in the farm to replenish it. Marte could slot in at 3B for the M's right away. He's one of the best hitters in baseball having won a Silver Slugger the last 2 years and averaging 5.3 bWAR the last 3 seasons despite missing some time with injuries. Morillo is an interesting arm - he averaged 99 MPH on his fastball last year and throws a wipe out slider that he's still working on controlling.

Roster:

1. Brendan Donovan 2B
2. Ketel Marte 3B
3. Cal Raleigh C
4. Julio Rodriguez CF
5. Josh Naylor 1B
6. Randy Arozarena LF
7. Luke Raley DH
8. Victor Robles RF
9. JP Crawford SS

Bench: Harry Ford C, Leo Rivas IF, Samad Taylor OF

Rotation:

1. Tarik Skubal
2. Bryan Woo
3. Logan Gilbert
4. George Kirby
5. Bryce Miller

CL: Andres Munoz
HL: Matt Brash, Gabe Speier, Eduard Bazardo
ML/LL: Carlos Vargas, Ty Madden, Juan Morillo

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DavidGee24 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:16 pm

"snort"

Per usual, DavidGee struggles with abstract thought.

The point of the this post is to show what trades would look like for popular names listed on this forum.

Not to say they would ever realistically complete all 3 of these trades in an off season.

Should I put this caveat in the beginning of the post so your singular brain cell doesn't melt and cause you to have an aneurysm? I thought me explaining this for the 15th time would have gotten through to you by now.

Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:27 pm

DavidGee24 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:16 pm

"snort"

Per usual, DavidGee struggles with abstract thought.

The point of the this post is to show what trades would look like for popular names listed on this forum.

Not to say they would ever realistically complete all 3 of these trades in an off season.

Should I put this caveat in the beginning of the post so your singular brain cell doesn't melt and cause you to have an aneurysm? I thought me explaining this for the 15th time would have gotten through to you by now.

Bro, let's start with this: I know way more about this game than you do, and I even still play it at a top level.

We might well acquire Donovan, but the package is going to look at LOT different. The other two aren't going to happen. Okay, they're possible, but only ever so slightly.

Marte has never played a complete game at 3B and Donovan hasn't played a lot of third but has experience there so I would swap those two.

DavidGee24 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:48 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:27 pm

DavidGee24 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:16 pm

"snort"

Per usual, DavidGee struggles with abstract thought.

The point of the this post is to show what trades would look like for popular names listed on this forum.

Not to say they would ever realistically complete all 3 of these trades in an off season.

Should I put this caveat in the beginning of the post so your singular brain cell doesn't melt and cause you to have an aneurysm? I thought me explaining this for the 15th time would have gotten through to you by now.

Bro, let's start with this: I know way more about this game than you do, and I even still play it at a top level.

We might well acquire Donovan, but the package is going to look at LOT different. The other two aren't going to happen. Okay, they're possible, but only ever so slightly.

You don't know way more about the game than me.

What you know is "ME SEE BASEBALL, ME HIT BASEBALL, WHY NOT BASEBALL GO OVER FENCE? ME ANGRY NOW. ME CLAIM OTHER TEAM CHEATING SO I HIT THEM WITH BASEBALL OR MY FIST."

You have never made a singular post that hints that you know more about baseball than me. Certainly not a post that indicates you know more about trade compensation. I literally predicted accurate trade comp for both Naylor and Geno at the deadline this year.

As I've said multiple times to you, these "plans" are not meant to be realistic. They're meant to spark conversation on a sports forum that allows multiple people to chime in about potential players available and the compensation it might take to acquire them. I don't know how to make that any more clear than I have to you.

You just don't know how to think like that... instead you make a moronic post replying to my thread like you just did. Be an adult, put some effort in, and you tell me what it would take to acquire Donovan in your opinion. That is how these places work unless you want to be the village neanderthal who sometimes chimes in with "MARINERS WIN!!! WE'RE HEROES!!!"

I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.

GL_Storm wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am

I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.

Exactly.

The only player I think they’d realistically trade for is Donovan. I’ve said many times I don’t think Skubal or Marte are realistic.

I’m just throwing compensation out there b/c many people want to keep talking about them. Cool, it’s fun.

Was trading for Naylor and Suarez at the deadline their style? Was signing Naylor to s $90 FA MIL contract their style? Dipoto has stated that they would be prepared act when the opportunity arose. Well they got to a win from going to the WS and are sitting on perhaps the best farm in baseball. I don't believe this turns on style as much as opportunity, it's cost. The same argument applies to trading for a single season of Skubol as it did trade for two months of Naylor and Suarez. In my mind Dipoto is looking at opportunities to improve the club weighed against cost as a function of their competitiveness.

That's what he said about the Naylor, Suarez trade at the time, the same logic applies today

“This one, we went a little bigger,” Dipoto said, “and it was players who are free agents at year's end, which is a little unique for us. But we felt like this team deserved the opportunity to just go out and see if we can win the World Series

Donn Beach wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:16 am

Was trading for Naylor and Suarez at the deadline their style? Was signing Naylor to s $90 FA MIL contract their style? Dipoto has stated that they would be prepared act when the opportunity arose. Well they got to a win from going to the WS and are sitting on perhaps the best farm in baseball. I don't believe this turns on style as much as opportunity, it's cost. The same argument applies to trading for a single season of Skubol as it did trade for two months of Naylor and Suarez. In my mind Dipoto is looking at opportunities to improve the club weighed against cost as a function of their competitiveness.

That's what he said about the Naylor, Suarez trade at the time, the same logic applies today

“This one, we went a little bigger,” Dipoto said, “and it was players who are free agents at year's end, which is a little unique for us. But we felt like this team deserved the opportunity to just go out and see if we can win the World Series

It depends. I've certainly never argued that it wasn't.

The M's traded for Yonder Alonso in 2017.

The M's traded for Cameron Maybin in 2018.

I never bought into the whole narrative around Dipoto not buying rentals... I just think he was averse to doing it while the team was rebuilding from 2019-2022.

But those players are not Tarik Skubal. He's never made a trade like what we'd see for Skubal. They've never acquired a rental this expensive. Have never even come close.