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My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:36 am
by bpj
Skubal, Arraez, Moncada
I think we need Skubal more than maybe any other frontrunning contender. He's a real difference maker.
Skubal
Woo
Kirby
Gilbert
Castillo
Miller (maybe you trade one, maybe they all graduate a step when Skubal leaves at the end of the season for the Yankees)
DH- Luis Arraez
Julio
Cal
Naylor
Arozarena
Canzone/Robles
3B- Yoan Moncada
Crawford
Bliss (or rookie)
That team would be fighting it out with the Dodgers in the World Series.
Moncada played well when he was on the field last season. He put up a 118 and 117 wRC+ the past two seasons. Almost 20% better than the average bat. Almost exactly the same as Brendan Donovan without giving up any prospects.
We have backup options at 3B. He's exactly the kind of guy you put in front of a Williamson who hasn't exactly earned a red carpet opening back to the big leagues.
Made the case for Arraez on the other thread. No brainer imo. Arraez and Moncada you dont even have to give up prospects for...
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:57 am
by bpj
This is Luis Arraez's career so far compared to Ichiro from 2001-2010.
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 4:02 pm
by Captain 97
Arraez is garbage. Dude has an OPS+ of 103 over the last 2 seasons and you want to run him out at DH?
Yandy is the man for DH.
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 4:08 pm
by Captain 97
Arraez career at T-mobile. 16 games .232/.306/.268/.574
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 6:05 pm
by Seattle or Bust
I just think there is a 0% chance it's the M's who trade for Skubal. They wouldn't do it unless they believe they could sign him to an extension and given what it will take, there's no way they're committing the $40+M AAV it would take.
Recent rumors are that the M's are in on Donovan, Marte, Murakami, Romero.
My preference is a trade for Donovan + Romero and signing Murakami to DH/be insurance at 3B.
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 7:20 pm
by GL_Storm
I've always liked the idea of bringing in Luis Arraez. WAR doesn't like him much because of positional limitations, lack of defensive value, and lack of power, but he's a great contact hitter and my feeling is that the metrics value that skill less than they should.
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:45 pm
by Sexymarinersfan
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 6:05 pm
I just think there is a 0% chance it's the M's who trade for Skubal. They wouldn't do it unless they believe they could sign him to an extension and given what it will take, there's no way they're committing the $40+M AAV it would take.
Recent rumors are that the M's are in on Donovan, Marte, Murakami, Romero.
My preference is a trade for Donovan + Romero and signing Murakami to DH/be insurance at 3B.
Daniel Kramee is throwing cold water on Ketel. Arizona wants MLB starting pitching. M's won't trade any. Plus Marte us owed $91 over 5-yrs and just paid Naylor. I don't think they'll want to commit those dollars to him as cheap as our front office is or trade one of our current Major League starters.
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:00 pm
by bpj
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 4:02 pm
Arraez is garbage. Dude has an OPS+ of 103 over the last 2 seasons and you want to run him out at DH?
Yandy is the man for DH.
I'd take Yandy at DH, but he's even less useful than Arraez in the field and the chances of Dipoto getting a guy that's just a DH are next to nothing imo.
Arraez is garbage? His numbers at the plate mirror Ichiro's 2001-2010 numbers almost exactly and he's the same age as Cal Raleigh while Yandy is going to be as old as Garver was last season...
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:07 pm
by Bil522
bpj wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:36 am
Skubal, Arraez, Moncada
I think we need Skubal more than maybe any other frontrunning contender. He's a real difference maker.
Skubal
Woo
Kirby
Gilbert
Castillo
Miller (maybe you trade one, maybe they all graduate a step when Skubal leaves at the end of the season for the Yankees)
DH- Luis Arraez
Julio
Cal
Naylor
Arozarena
Canzone/Robles
3B- Yoan Moncada
Crawford
Bliss (or rookie)
That team would be fighting it out with the Dodgers in the World Series.
Moncada played well when he was on the field last season. He put up a 118 and 117 wRC+ the past two seasons. Almost 20% better than the average bat. Almost exactly the same as Brendan Donovan without giving up any prospects.
We have backup options at 3B. He's exactly the kind of guy you put in front of a Williamson who hasn't exactly earned a red carpet opening back to the big leagues.
Made the case for Arraez on the other thread. No brainer imo. Arraez and Moncada you dont even have to give up prospects for...
Moncada was just with 24 W-Sox and the 25 Angels. If he was a good guy to have on your team wouldn't 2 of the worst franchises have kept him as a + bat?
Re: My plan at this point-
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:23 pm
by bpj
Bil522 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:07 pm
bpj wrote: ↑Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:36 am
Skubal, Arraez, Moncada
I think we need Skubal more than maybe any other frontrunning contender. He's a real difference maker.
Skubal
Woo
Kirby
Gilbert
Castillo
Miller (maybe you trade one, maybe they all graduate a step when Skubal leaves at the end of the season for the Yankees)
DH- Luis Arraez
Julio
Cal
Naylor
Arozarena
Canzone/Robles
3B- Yoan Moncada
Crawford
Bliss (or rookie)
That team would be fighting it out with the Dodgers in the World Series.
Moncada played well when he was on the field last season. He put up a 118 and 117 wRC+ the past two seasons. Almost 20% better than the average bat. Almost exactly the same as Brendan Donovan without giving up any prospects.
We have backup options at 3B. He's exactly the kind of guy you put in front of a Williamson who hasn't exactly earned a red carpet opening back to the big leagues.
Made the case for Arraez on the other thread. No brainer imo. Arraez and Moncada you dont even have to give up prospects for...
Moncada was just with 24 W-Sox and the 25 Angels. If he was a good guy to have on your team wouldn't 2 of the worst franchises have kept him as a + bat?
He's a free agent, he probably won't sign with them, thats why they don't bring him back.
All I'm saying is I think given what else is available, and the cost, both Arraez and Moncada are upgrades that are readily available and we're a team that needs a few upgrades.