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Who would have bet?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 3:08 pm
by Hy Feiber
It’s only 40 some games into the season, but who would’ve bet that the White Sox would have a better record than Toronto?
And that the Mets would be stinking it up?
But the big surprise is Tampa Bay, which, despite making one bad trade after another, is at the top.
The Raley gift stands out.
They also appear to have been ripped off by trading their slugger, Lowe, and Mangum.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 3:16 pm
by AlvinDavisFan21
Certainly some surprises. But how about the Mariners being 22-23? I thought after 45 games they would be at least 25-20. Cal not hitting his body weight, atrocious defense, giving at bats away, and arguably Cole Young being your best clutch hitter. I think the Mariners have underachieved and will be back over .500 soon. Just have to clean up some things. Better days ahead.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 6:05 pm
by Donn Beach
Not sure we stole Raley exactly. Caballero, who we traded for him has put up 1.6 war so far this season. He's with the Yankees now, he's their SS. He has more career war than Raley. Just went on the IL
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 8:01 pm
by GL_Storm
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 6:05 pm
Not sure we stole Raley exactly. Caballero, who we traded for him has put up 1.6 war so far this season. He's with the Yankees now, he's their SS. He has more career war than Raley. Just went on the IL
I would much rather have Caballero right now.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 12:07 am
by Hy Feiber
AlvinDavisFan21 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 3:16 pm
Certainly some surprises. But how about the Mariners being 22-23? I thought after 45 games they would be at least 25-20. Cal not hitting his body weight, atrocious defense, giving at bats away, and arguably Cole Young being your best clutch hitter. I think the Mariners have underachieved and will be back over .500 soon. Just have to clean up some things. Better days ahead.
The Mariners remind me of a cat playing with a mouse, before too long they’ll get way ahead in the AL Worst.
They could probably win 82 games and finish first.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 12:11 am
by D-train
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 12:15 am
by Hy Feiber
GL_Storm wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 8:01 pm
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 6:05 pm
Not sure we stole Raley exactly. Caballero, who we traded for him has put up 1.6 war so far this season. He's with the Yankees now, he's their SS. He has more career war than Raley. Just went on the IL
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I would much rather have Caballero right now.
When healthy, Raley has proved to be pretty productive, real pop, not sure how they figure out WAR.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 2:01 am
by D-train
Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 12:15 am
GL_Storm wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 8:01 pm
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 6:05 pm
Not sure we stole Raley exactly. Caballero, who we traded for him has put up 1.6 war so far this season. He's with the Yankees now, he's their SS. He has more career war than Raley. Just went on the IL
R
I would much rather have Caballero right now.
When healthy, Raley has proved to be pretty productive, real pop, not sure how they figure out WAR.
They take offense, defense and baserunning metrics and aggregate them which allows you to compare players that play different positions in different ballparks and different eras by quantifying their overall production.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 2:03 am
by Hy Feiber
D-train wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 2:01 am
Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 12:15 am
GL_Storm wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 8:01 pm
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I would much rather have Caballero right now.
When healthy, Raley has proved to be pretty productive, real pop, not sure how they figure out WAR.
They take offense, defense and baserunning metrics and aggregate them which allows you to compare players that play different positions in different ballparks and different eras by quantifying their overall production.
Different eras, that sounds really strange.
Re: Who would have bet?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 2:12 am
by D-train
Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 2:03 am
D-train wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 2:01 am
Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 12:15 am
When healthy, Raley has proved to be pretty productive, real pop, not sure how they figure out WAR.
They take offense, defense and baserunning metrics and aggregate them which allows you to compare players that play different positions in different ballparks and different eras by quantifying their overall production.
Different eras, that sounds really strange.
For example comparing offensive stats in the pitching era of the late 60s with the steroid era is comparing apples to orangutans. They compare players to the average hitter in each era to account for the massive differences in offensive production league wide.