Donavon trade update

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Donavon trade update

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jul 16, 2026 2:15 pm

The Cardinals have promoted Cijntje to AAA. I believe i was laughed at when i predicted he could make it to the majors this season, so we shall see. Maybe the firsf place cardinals are seeing a need. Peete was raking until he got conked in the head. The throw in Ben Williamson is helping the As to one of the best records in baseball. In the mean time it looks like Donvans season might be over for the flat mariners. Im not regretting the trade but it sure aeems other teams are better prepared to be rewarded from it. Particularly teams that were supposedly re-building
Cijntje, who was acquired from the Mariners in a trade centered around All-Star infielder Brendan Donovan last February, has gone 3-4 with a 5.04 ERA in 17 starts with Double-A Springfield this season. In 80 innings of work, he struck out 100 and walked 40, while also surrendering 14 homers in the hitter-friendly Texas League.

Cijntje, 23, has mostly pitched right-handed this season, but he has faced 22 hitters – one right-hander and 21 lefties – as a left-handed pitcher. He walked the one right-handed batter he faced, and he has limited lefties to 3 for 13 hitting with six walks and five strikeouts as a southpaw

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:51 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 2:15 pm
The Cardinals have promoted Cijntje to AAA. I believe i was laughed at when i predicted he could make it to the majors this season, so we shall see. Maybe the firsf place cardinals are seeing a need. Peete was raking until he got conked in the head. The throw in Ben Williamson is helping the As to one of the best records in baseball. In the mean time it looks like Donvans season might be over for the flat mariners. Im not regretting the trade but it sure aeems other teams are better prepared to be rewarded from it. Particularly teams that were supposedly re-building
Cijntje, who was acquired from the Mariners in a trade centered around All-Star infielder Brendan Donovan last February, has gone 3-4 with a 5.04 ERA in 17 starts with Double-A Springfield this season. In 80 innings of work, he struck out 100 and walked 40, while also surrendering 14 homers in the hitter-friendly Texas League.

Cijntje, 23, has mostly pitched right-handed this season, but he has faced 22 hitters – one right-hander and 21 lefties – as a left-handed pitcher. He walked the one right-handed batter he faced, and he has limited lefties to 3 for 13 hitting with six walks and five strikeouts as a southpaw
Donovan started a rehab assignment last night with the ACL Mariners. He's expected back within the next few weeks.

Williamson went to the Rays, not the A's. He's been worth 0.4 fWAR and has a 87 wRC+. Nothing to cry about.

He might make the majors, but given the 5.04 ERA in AA and 40 BB's 80 innings, that would seem a mistake. Especially for a Cardinals staff that has 4x guys with sub-4 ERA's and former top pitching prospect Matthew Liberatore trying to figure it out.

Regardless, Jurrangelo has fallen out of the top 100 prospects for ESPN, Bleacher Report, and MLB. His star is fading and "making it to the majors" is not a sign of a successful trade.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:59 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:51 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 2:15 pm
The Cardinals have promoted Cijntje to AAA. I believe i was laughed at when i predicted he could make it to the majors this season, so we shall see. Maybe the firsf place cardinals are seeing a need. Peete was raking until he got conked in the head. The throw in Ben Williamson is helping the As to one of the best records in baseball. In the mean time it looks like Donvans season might be over for the flat mariners. Im not regretting the trade but it sure aeems other teams are better prepared to be rewarded from it. Particularly teams that were supposedly re-building
Cijntje, who was acquired from the Mariners in a trade centered around All-Star infielder Brendan Donovan last February, has gone 3-4 with a 5.04 ERA in 17 starts with Double-A Springfield this season. In 80 innings of work, he struck out 100 and walked 40, while also surrendering 14 homers in the hitter-friendly Texas League.

Cijntje, 23, has mostly pitched right-handed this season, but he has faced 22 hitters – one right-hander and 21 lefties – as a left-handed pitcher. He walked the one right-handed batter he faced, and he has limited lefties to 3 for 13 hitting with six walks and five strikeouts as a southpaw
Donovan started a rehab assignment last night with the ACL Mariners. He's expected back within the next few weeks.

Williamson went to the Rays, not the A's. He's been worth 0.4 fWAR and has a 87 wRC+. Nothing to cry about.

He might make the majors, but given the 5.04 ERA in AA and 40 BB's 80 innings, that would seem a mistake. Especially for a Cardinals staff that has 4x guys with sub-4 ERA's and former top pitching prospect Matthew Liberatore trying to figure it out.

Regardless, Jurrangelo has fallen out of the top 100 prospects for ESPN, Bleacher Report, and MLB. His star is fading and "making it to the majors" is not a sign of a successful trade.
Excellent assessment. Totally agree. Donovan will be back probably just before the deadline so he will be our big trade deadline "acquisition" Donn has trouble with names so not surprised he said A's vs. Rays. Great first year for Chaim Bloom of the Cards who as Donn mentioned were supposed to be rebuilding....50-45 which is better than our record in Jerry's 11th season...
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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:52 pm

Definitely no regrets on trading away Williamson, Cijintje and Peete so far, although Peete looks like he's improving after a blah season at Everett last year.

Noelvi Marte, ouch. https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... no01.shtml And no impact from Edwin Arroyo yet https://www.baseball-reference.com/mino ... royo001edw Even with Castillo's struggles this season we got by far the better of that trade.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by GL_Storm » Thu Jul 16, 2026 7:37 pm

I think the trade was worth doing in the sense that you have to take these calculated risks. But, it clearly hasn't worked out for the Mariners so far. However, I still think Donovan is a quality major league player and if he can just stay on the field we'll see his production. He could also end up being traded as I think a lot of other teams value that type of profile.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Jul 16, 2026 7:44 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 7:37 pm
I think the trade was worth doing in the sense that you have to take these calculated risks. But, it clearly hasn't worked out for the Mariners so far. However, I still think Donovan is a quality major league player and if he can just stay on the field we'll see his production. He could also end up being traded as I think a lot of other teams value that type of profile.
I mean, I'll take 0.5 WAR in 25 games played.

It's better than how Jerry usually does.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:32 am

Im not regretting the trade but it sure aeems other teams are better prepared to be rewarded from it. Particularly teams that were supposedly re-building
I didnt post about regretting the trade, i was commenting on who seems to be benefiting from it.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:41 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:32 am
Im not regretting the trade but it sure aeems other teams are better prepared to be rewarded from it. Particularly teams that were supposedly re-building
I didnt post about regretting the trade, i was commenting on who seems to be benefiting from it.
I think the Mariners have benefited just fine from it.

They are no worse for the wear having done it.

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:49 am

How have they benefited just fine from it? They are the team out of the three not in first place

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Re: Donavon trade update

Post by bpj » Fri Jul 17, 2026 6:15 am

They've benefitted more from it at the major league level than the Cardinals have..

I think all this time off will have a bad impact on what we get from Donovan the rest of the year.

But the only thing that could have benefitted the Cardinals so far has been addition by subtraction of Donovan. And I don't think that's a conversation anyone's asking for because he's not a negative production player.

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