Not sure how you fellas define marriage. But if he comes back we be married....lol. It’s up to him not usVogelbomb wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:15 pmNot sure if you did or where you may have read it, but that isn't accurate. He's signed a major-league contract which guarantees him his full deal w/o having to worry about being "non-tendered." If Kikuchi sees his club option waived by the M's then decides to pick up his single-season option at $14m rather than test the market, he's guaranteed that $14m. Now, the M's could decide to hold him off their 26-man roster, but he'd have to accept a demotion to AAA I believe and meanwhile he still gets his $14mSeattleSportsRUs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:07 pmDid I read somewhere that even if he picks up his option we can non-tender him or something and allow him to become a F/A? I've never been great with the contractual caveats.
Significantly: What does it all mean
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$13M to pitch in the bullpen....tempting
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I actually think he can get more money in FA. Maybe not more than $13M AAV but more on a multi (2?) year deal for like $20M. Some GM will think they can get him to pitch like he did in the first half for a full season. So that's good news for us.Coeurd’Alene J wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:54 pmNot sure how you fellas define marriage. But if he comes back we be married....lol. It’s up to him not usVogelbomb wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:15 pmNot sure if you did or where you may have read it, but that isn't accurate. He's signed a major-league contract which guarantees him his full deal w/o having to worry about being "non-tendered." If Kikuchi sees his club option waived by the M's then decides to pick up his single-season option at $14m rather than test the market, he's guaranteed that $14m. Now, the M's could decide to hold him off their 26-man roster, but he'd have to accept a demotion to AAA I believe and meanwhile he still gets his $14mSeattleSportsRUs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:07 pm
Did I read somewhere that even if he picks up his option we can non-tender him or something and allow him to become a F/A? I've never been great with the contractual caveats.
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Possible. But on my team, he'd be a middle reliever at best and take the "4-or-more-runs-behind" role.
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He is the next ultra-ultra high prospect that Seattle gets. We can't sign him until September but I think somebody brought him up at least several months ago. So we started talking about this kid when he was 14 almost 15? Geez!Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:13 pmI can't wait to see what this kid's future holds!! $4M!?
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I think the hype around this kid is pretty irrational. Maybe the talent evaluators are right this time, but I don't see how you watch a kid play at 14 and decide then and there that he's a future major league star, or even a major leaguer at all. Bodies change so much from 14 to 18 and even from 18 to 21. We see it all the time with college players. But maybe when they watch him play, they see a special genius, a Griffey or ARod at the same age. I hope they're right.
By the way, there's a chance the new CBA includes an international draft. I hope that's not the case, but if it happens another team may get the rights to sign this kid.
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Well there is no guarantee he will be a star but there is nothing unusual about, if you are going to participate in the international market it's how it's done. Julio Rodríguez, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Wander Franco were signed at 16, they all were. You not getting a player like that waiting until they are 18
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I am surprised its not considered racist to have different rules for hispanic players
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its not different rules for Hispanic players, they apply to anybody that hasn't attended an American educational instruction. Its not discriminatory, its to their benefit not to be subject to the draft I would think. It has been manipulated by the clubs with their baseball academies and all that, created a low cost talent pipeline
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So you gonna trot him out there every five days to pitch three innings and put the team behind by two to four runs? As an organization, I'd be packing his bags. But maybe he feels comfortable not pitching and earning his keep. The M's have proved they are overly patient with their players (exhibit A: Mr. White). I've seen enough from KK to know he's fallen off the cliff and doesn't have the mental makeup to start again.