Halfway point grades

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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by D-train » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:00 pm

gil wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:53 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:07 pm
The good
Julio - A. 5.6 WAR pace. Would have been an A+ if not for the slow start. Just amazing baseball player and he is ours.

France - A- 4.6 WAR. Just a pure hitter. Hasn't been as good defensively but who cares. Sucks that he got hurt because of a guy that should have never been playing. Toro.

Suarez - B+ 4.0 WAR. Man what pleasant surprise. Very solid pick up and better than Seager was last season.

Cal - B 3.0 WAR Another great surprise. A catcher that can hit. It has been too long. Once he gets his BA over .200 he could finish with and A grade.

JP Crawford - B- 3.0 WAR. Hot start but then the same ole JP. Buzz kill but still a decent player. Needs to get going again when he returns

Moore - C+ 2.0 WAR Solid UT player. If only he could hit for average.

The Bad

Winker D+ 0.8 WAR. Epic disappointment. Better lately but still bad overall.

Frazier D- 0.4 WAR. Just completely sucks. Decent defensively but just an impotent back especially lately. Terrible Pick up.

The Ugly

JK F 0.0 WAR Yet another fail. Played better defensively but just can NOT hit MLB pitching.

Toro F -0.8 WAR Only one of two negative WAR guys on the team. Just a nightmare season for him. I won't miss him when he is gone.

Torrens F -0.8 WAR. Can't hit, can't catch, what do ya do??? Literally a zero tool player now that he has zero power. Be gone and stay gone.

Who would like to grade the pitchers????
How do you figure Suarez 2022 is better than Seager 2021. I see Geno's OBS is better, but power numbers are lower and he hasn't been hitting as well with RISP. Defense?
Seager only put up 2.6 WAR for the entire season and Geno is already at 2.0 at the half way point.

Geno's slash is better across the board. Seager's D was actually rated better.

.240/.332/.436/.768

Seager
.212/.285/.438/.723
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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:02 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:45 pm
Thanks and Great job!

Maybe you already know this but Mills was traded in the Santana trade.
Ah good point, I didn't include Yohan for that reason.

The trade sort of pissed me off so I couldn't be bothered to remember the details :lol:
Why did it piss you off? I would have preferred Bell but we didn't give up anything at least.
It didn't move the needle enough for me and it sort of blocks them from picking up a guy like Bell if they get to around .500 near the trade deadline.

Don't need 3x slow moving 1B/DH types on the roster.

I feel like it just sets up another Jerry excuse, "well we went out and got Santana, what more could you ask for?"

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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by D-train » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:04 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:02 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:49 pm


Ah good point, I didn't include Yohan for that reason.

The trade sort of pissed me off so I couldn't be bothered to remember the details :lol:
Why did it piss you off? I would have preferred Bell but we didn't give up anything at least.
It didn't move the needle enough for me and it sort of blocks them from picking up a guy like Bell if they get to around .500 near the trade deadline.

Don't need 3x slow moving 1B/DH types on the roster.

I feel like it just sets up another Jerry excuse, "well we went out and got Santana, what more could you ask for?"
Got it and agree. Half ass as always and they fact that he got $4M back tells me they are hyper focused on keeping payroll down. Drives me insane.
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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:08 pm

This is awesome!

Thank you DTrain.
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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:06 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:02 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:49 pm


Ah good point, I didn't include Yohan for that reason.

The trade sort of pissed me off so I couldn't be bothered to remember the details :lol:
Why did it piss you off? I would have preferred Bell but we didn't give up anything at least.
It didn't move the needle enough for me and it sort of blocks them from picking up a guy like Bell if they get to around .500 near the trade deadline.

Don't need 3x slow moving 1B/DH types on the roster.

I feel like it just sets up another Jerry excuse, "well we went out and got Santana, what more could you ask for?"
No reason they can't just DFA Santana if a better option becomes available.

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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by bpj » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:17 pm

Out of 281 MLB players with 150+ plate appearances in 2022, here's where our guys stack up ranked by OPS:

Toro: 256th
Frazier: 255th
Winker: 192nd
Santana: 183rd
Raleigh: 129th
Crawford: 124th
Suarez: 89th
Julio: 49th
France: 23rd

(Kelenic didnt have enough PA to qualify but his .509 OPS would rank 273rd).

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &page=1_30

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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by ice99 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:30 pm

bpj wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:17 pm
Out of 281 MLB players with 150+ plate appearances in 2022, here's where our guys stack up ranked by OPS:

Toro: 256th
Frazier: 255th
Winker: 192nd
Santana: 183rd
Raleigh: 129th
Crawford: 124th
Suarez: 89th
Julio: 49th
France: 23rd

(Kelenic didnt have enough PA to qualify but his .509 OPS would rank 273rd).

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &page=1_30
Dylan Moore has 146 PA. His .698 OPS (106 OPS+) would rank him 172nd.

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Re: Halfway point grades

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:42 pm

ice99 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:30 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:17 pm
Out of 281 MLB players with 150+ plate appearances in 2022, here's where our guys stack up ranked by OPS:

Toro: 256th
Frazier: 255th
Winker: 192nd
Santana: 183rd
Raleigh: 129th
Crawford: 124th
Suarez: 89th
Julio: 49th
France: 23rd

(Kelenic didnt have enough PA to qualify but his .509 OPS would rank 273rd).

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &page=1_30
Dylan Moore has 146 PA. His .698 OPS (106 OPS+) would rank him 172nd.
Might be better to ranking by OPS+ given T Mobile park.
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