Breaking: Castillo extended

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by bpj » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:54 am

Millikin wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:53 pm
Why would Judge ever want to leave New York? Even if he could get more money somewhere else, he can be a Yankee legend until death, which is probably worth more than another 5 million a year.
Probably because he knows he's a legend, until he's not.

There aren't many fanbases that turn on their players quicker than Yankee fans.

5 years into the contract if he hits .200 with ten homeruns they're going to taunt him relentlessly until he either turns it around or gets traded.

The fans aren't scarf wearing latte sippers in New York.

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by bhofferb » Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:45 am

Apparently there is a clause in Castillo’s contract that says that the M’s get an extra option year if he has TJ surgery in the last yheee years of the contract. Nice little insurance policy

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by seth8734 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:43 am

Great that Castillo wanted to stay here. Can tell he loves being here. On a much better team and this rotation for years will be GLORIOUS.

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by Gametime » Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:40 am

Fantastic news.

Great job M’s.

The trade looks beyond fantastic with the extension added.

Not a Dipoto fan, but home run here. Gotta give him the credit.

Stanton opening the payroll. Nice. Didn’t think it would happen.

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:12 am

bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:54 am
Millikin wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:53 pm
Why would Judge ever want to leave New York? Even if he could get more money somewhere else, he can be a Yankee legend until death, which is probably worth more than another 5 million a year.
Probably because he knows he's a legend, until he's not.

There aren't many fanbases that turn on their players quicker than Yankee fans.

5 years into the contract if he hits .200 with ten homeruns they're going to taunt him relentlessly until he either turns it around or gets traded.

The fans aren't scarf wearing latte sippers in New York.
They are low balling him like they did Cano. Doubt he would be willing to leave a fist full of money on the table just to be a Yankee

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:47 am

Interesting, banning the shift is going to make Castillo suck
.It shouldn’t be a surprise to see pitchers like Luis Castillo of the Seattle Mariners, Logan Webb of the San Francisco Giants and Brad Keller of the Kansas City Royals among those who have had the most hits prevented by their team’s shift.
Entering the week, Webb ranks second (58.3%), Castillo sits third (54.2%) and Keller is sixth (51.3%) in highest groundball percentage since the 2020 season.
While it’s difficult to say how many runs these hits would have led to if not prevented, we can tell you that just adding the 33 hits to Castillo’s line bumps his batting average against over the past three seasons from .237 to .260
https://theanalyst.com/2022/08/who-figu ... is-banned/

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by bpj » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:43 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:12 am
bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:54 am
Millikin wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:53 pm
Why would Judge ever want to leave New York? Even if he could get more money somewhere else, he can be a Yankee legend until death, which is probably worth more than another 5 million a year.
Probably because he knows he's a legend, until he's not.

There aren't many fanbases that turn on their players quicker than Yankee fans.

5 years into the contract if he hits .200 with ten homeruns they're going to taunt him relentlessly until he either turns it around or gets traded.

The fans aren't scarf wearing latte sippers in New York.
They are low balling him like they did Cano. Doubt he would be willing to leave a fist full of money on the table just to be a Yankee
I doubt the Yankees, or anybody else, think they lowballed Cano.

The Yankees are probably thrilled they didn't offer Cano anywhere near what we did.

Freddie Freeman got 6/160.

The Yankees offer of 7/210 for Judge is already an overpay. Even after his monster season, anything over that is a Cano-level overpay. If the Dodgers or Red Sox won't pay up its hard to see who's going to offer more than that.

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by D-train » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:00 am

Millikin wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:53 pm
Why would Judge ever want to leave New York? Even if he could get more money somewhere else, he can be a Yankee legend until death, which is probably worth more than another 5 million a year.
Why didn't he sign the extension when they offered it to him a few months ago. Might have been about money.
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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by bpj » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:55 am

Trying to figure out what Judge might get offered, here are comparable recent contracts-

Arenado 9/270
Machado 10/300
Betts 12/365
Rendon 7/245
Harper 13/330
Rendon 7/245
Bryant 7/182

Judge is older than most of these guys were in the first year of the contract, 2023 being his age 31 season.

Arenado signed before his age 30 season.
Rendon signed before his age 30 season.
Bryant signed before his age 30 season.

Those might be the closest comps for contracts and Judge is a year older and built like Lurch from The Munsters.

I don't think he gets $300M.

As a cautionary tale, Miguel Cabrera will be going into the final year of his 8/240M contract in 2023 which he signed going into his age 32 season. Pujols. Votto..

https://www.baseball-reference.com/lead ... ract.shtml

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Re: Breaking: Castillo extended

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:06 pm

bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:43 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:12 am
bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:54 am


Probably because he knows he's a legend, until he's not.

There aren't many fanbases that turn on their players quicker than Yankee fans.

5 years into the contract if he hits .200 with ten homeruns they're going to taunt him relentlessly until he either turns it around or gets traded.

The fans aren't scarf wearing latte sippers in New York.
They are low balling him like they did Cano. Doubt he would be willing to leave a fist full of money on the table just to be a Yankee
I doubt the Yankees, or anybody else, think they lowballed Cano.

The Yankees are probably thrilled they didn't offer Cano anywhere near what we did.

Freddie Freeman got 6/160.

The Yankees offer of 7/210 for Judge is already an overpay. Even after his monster season, anything over that is a Cano-level overpay. If the Dodgers or Red Sox won't pay up its hard to see who's going to offer more than that.
They would have been better off giving Cano his money than signing jacoby ellsbury, that was a total bust, Cano would have actually given them production for their money. In terms of teams stepping up, that's what was said about Muchado and Harper

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