Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Jerry Dipoto on Seattle Sports 710 on Thursday:
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/category ... ipoto+Show
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/category ... ipoto+Show
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Seniority and suck cost of Payroll owed justifying putting sticking the absolute worst option in that role over Flexen, Miller, Dollard, Hancock, Berroa et al So Mariners...Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:39 amWasn't Marco laboring through something last year? I know none of our starters hit the DL, but Marco hit a rough patch at the beginning of the season. If he sucks, I think you'll see a quick flip flop of him and Flexen. But right now, I'm willing to bet that the 5th spot is Marco's just based on seniority alone.
dt
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
I know it is not much consolation but I am sure glad he is our number 5 starter instead of number 1 like he was for years!
I guess it could always be worse.
I guess it could always be worse.
-
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:09 pm
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Seems some players at least got bumps on MLBTV making it a bit more fun to generate trades:
Gilbert got a 20 or so point bump to 72.6.
Raleigh got a 10 or point bump to 43.5.
Munoz got a MASSIVE bump by some 30 points to 54.3.
Ford gained a 10 point bump to 23.2.
Young gained a 10 point bump to 15.7.
Bryce Miller gained a 6 point bump to 11.2.
Gilbert got a 20 or so point bump to 72.6.
Raleigh got a 10 or point bump to 43.5.
Munoz got a MASSIVE bump by some 30 points to 54.3.
Ford gained a 10 point bump to 23.2.
Young gained a 10 point bump to 15.7.
Bryce Miller gained a 6 point bump to 11.2.
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Wow. Thanks for the update.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:54 pmSeems some players at least got bumps on MLBTV making it a bit more fun to generate trades:
Gilbert got a 20 or so point bump to 72.6.
Raleigh got a 10 or point bump to 43.5.
Munoz got a MASSIVE bump by some 30 points to 54.3.
Ford gained a 10 point bump to 23.2.
Young gained a 10 point bump to 15.7.
Bryce Miller gained a 6 point bump to 11.2.
dt
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Marco Gonzales remains a hard one to project but consider his comp with Sean Manaea, whom San Francisco signed a two-year, $25 million contract with a player opt out after 2023. Gonzales and Manaea, who both turn 31 years old next month, are lefthanders who were selected out of college in the first round of the 2013 draft:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/draf ... year_round
Compare their career lines:
MG 153 G, 145 GS, 843 IP, 4.08 ERA, 1.28 WHIP, 6.74 K/9. 2.35 BB/9, 100 ERA+, 9.6 fWAR, 8.6 bWAR
SM 159 G, 156 GS, 885 IP, 4.06 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 8.11 K/9, 2.34 BB/9, 100 ERA+, 12.1 fWAR, 11.5 bWAR
Neither Gonzales nor Manaea had good seasons in 2022:
MG 32 G, 32 GS, 183 IP, 4.13 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 5.07 K/9, 2.46 BB/9, 90 ERA+, 0.1 fWAR, -0.1 bWAR
SM 30 G, 28 GS, 158 IP, 4.96 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 8.89 K/9, 2.85 BB/9, 75 ERA+, 1.1 fWAR, -0.1 bWAR
The FanGraphs 2023 projections:
MG 29 G, 29 GS, 167 IP, 15.3 K%, 6.2 BB%, 4.62 ERA, 4.78 FIP, 0.5 WAR
SM 28 G, 28 GS, 156 IP, 22.1 K%, 6.7 BB%, 4.06 ERA, 3.90 FIP, 1.9 WAR
The Marcel 2023 projections:
MG 166 IP, 3.96 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 6.5 K/9, 2.5 BB/9
SM 156 IP, 4.33 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 8.8 K/9, 2.6 BB/9
Roster Resource currently lists Gonzales as the No. 5 starter with Seattle and Manaea as the No. 3 starter with San Francisco:
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... s/mariners
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/giants
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/marco ... position=P
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/sean- ... position=P
https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ma02.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... se01.shtml
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
Marco's even less impressive than Jarrod Washburn, Wade Miley and Jason Vargas...
- Attachments
-
- Screenshot_20230127_172709_DuckDuckGo.jpg (93.84 KiB) Viewed 326 times
Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread
17 days until WBC pitchers and catchers report
20 days until pitchers and catchers report. Not WBC players/// AND WBC position players report
25 days until non-WBC position players report
28 days until the 1st SPring game
59days until last spring training game
62 days until Opening day vs Cleveland
171 days until the 2023 MLB draft.
It is just around the corner!
20 days until pitchers and catchers report. Not WBC players/// AND WBC position players report
25 days until non-WBC position players report
28 days until the 1st SPring game
59days until last spring training game
62 days until Opening day vs Cleveland
171 days until the 2023 MLB draft.
It is just around the corner!