If I was going to elect a Roids guy it would be ARod but I would prob wait until last year of eligibility. Manny is too much of a clown but man what a hitter.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:00 pmHelton, A. Jones, Kent, M. Ramirez, Rolen, Wagner, and A-Rod for me.
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Yeah I think it will be first ballot and 90%+ but not particularly close to unanimous.Big_Maple wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:50 pmYes, there's that. But I suspect his other stats trump OBP like a straight flush trumps an ace high:
10× All-Star (2001–2010)
AL MVP (2001)
AL Rookie of the Year (2001)
10× Gold Glove Award (2001–2010)
3× Silver Slugger Award (2001, 2007, 2009)
2× AL batting champion (2001, 2004)
AL stolen base leader (2001)
MLB record 262 hits, single season
Ichiro tallied 4,367 hits in his professional career, the most of any player in baseball history. He tallied 3,089 hits in Major League Baseball and 1,278 hits in Nippon Professional Baseball.
Ichiro is 1 of 7 MLB players in the 3,000-hit and 500-stolen-base clubs, along with Hall of Famers Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, Honus Wagner, Lou Brock, Rickey Henderson & Paul Molitor.
Ichiro’s career .311 batting average leads all Major League players who accrued at least 5,000 plate appearances and debuted since 2000.
Ichiro was arguably the greatest leadoff hitter of his era, collecting 2,529 of his hits from the top spot, which ranked behind only Rickey Henderson (3,020) and Rose (2,924). However, compared to those two, Ichiro compiled a much higher batting average from the No. 1 hole, with a .323 clip, compared to Rose's .308 and Henderson's .280.
Ichiro won a Gold Glove Award in each of his first 10 seasons, joining Hall of Fame Reds catcher Johnny Bench as the only players to do so. His 10 Gold Gloves rank tied for third most among outfielders (with Ken Griffey Jr., Andruw Jones and Al Kaline), and no outfielder has won more than 12 (Roberto Clemente and Willie Mays).
(compiled all this from various sources...but they're impressive highlights that should guarantee no one leaves him off their ballots - should be an easy unanimous, IMHO)
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And he began his MLB career at 27, that needs to be taken into account like with Edgar
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I think Ichiro will be unanimous. The numbers are too overwhelming.
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I don't think it's understood how well liked he is around the rest of baseball, he's up there with Rivera and Jeter. The fandom isn't just a homer thing
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Six reasons why Ichiro should be the next unanimous hof inductee. You will roll your eyes but that aspect would definitely be based on his popularity.
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/ichiro-should- ... c303102318
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/ichiro-should- ... c303102318
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Ichiro is about as overrated of a player as I can ever think of, but also as famous as anybody else I can think of.
And it's not the Hall of Awesome.
And it's not the Hall of Awesome.
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Ichiro also has to be given "Jackie Robinson" consideration where he was not allowed to play in MLB until he was 27.
And here's the thing; Ichiro was as good at 20 as he was at 27. Barring catastrophic injury, if he starts in MLB at 20 he breaks Rose's hit record and ends up with over 100 WAR. That should matter.
And here's the thing; Ichiro was as good at 20 as he was at 27. Barring catastrophic injury, if he starts in MLB at 20 he breaks Rose's hit record and ends up with over 100 WAR. That should matter.
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I think he is more respected outside of Seattle and that is actually telling....Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:54 amI don't think it's understood how well liked he is around the rest of baseball, he's up there with Rivera and Jeter. The fandom isn't just a homer thing
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