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Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:31 am
by D-train

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:56 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
That's why it could be disastrous for a team like the Mariners to sign him.

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:03 pm
by D-train
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:56 am
That's why it could be disastrous for a team like the Mariners to sign him.
His price tag just went down by at least 50%. If he can't pitch he is just a DH. A damn good DH but the value of him filling two roster spots in elite historic fashion and the allure and mystique that it brings is up in smoke...

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:26 pm
by Coeurd’Alene J
Can’t wait for the Stanton interview “ we were the front runners to get him” bullshit. It’s sad he got hurt. He had one hell of a year going

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:01 pm
by Juliooooo
Sign him. DH next season, then he can pitch in 2025. Mariners can handle signing him and not have him pitch next year. Still worth signing for 400 million over 10 years

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:10 pm
by Big_Maple
Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Sign him. DH next season, then he can pitch in 2025. Mariners can handle signing him and not have him pitch next year. Still worth signing for 400 million over 10 years
Totally agree. It's like a scratch and dent sale. If we can sign him, we just saved several hundred million. So what if he can't pitch - we have one of the best starting rotations in baseball for the next several years. By the time our young arms are ready for free agency, Ohtani's value as a pitcher would have plummeted anyway, and he'd be pretty much a full time DH by then.

So yeah, Juliooooo - if he can get back to pitching in a year or two, great. If not, we'd have one of the best lefty bats in the game at DH, and he can still play COF. It would basically be like signing Aaron Judge but with the possibility that he may return to pitching.

Post Script: I just read that this is his second UCL tear. How many times can you surgically repair the same ligament? Sounds like he may have just pitched his last game. Makes me a little sad. OK - a lot sad.

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:19 pm
by Juliooooo
Big_Maple wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:10 pm
Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Sign him. DH next season, then he can pitch in 2025. Mariners can handle signing him and not have him pitch next year. Still worth signing for 400 million over 10 years
Totally agree. It's like a scratch and dent sale. If we can sign him, we just saved several hundred million. So what if he can't pitch - we have one of the best starting rotations in baseball for the next several years. By the time our young arms are ready for free agency, Ohtani's value as a pitcher would have plummeted anyway, and he'd be pretty much a full time DH by then.

So yeah, Juliooooo - if he can get back to pitching in a year or two, great. If not, we'd have one of the best lefty bats in the game at DH, and he can still play COF. It would basically be like signing Aaron Judge but with the possibility that he may return to pitching.

Post Script: I just read that this is his second UCL tear. How many times can you surgically repair the same ligament? Sounds like he may have just pitched his last game. Makes me a little sad. OK - a lot sad.
Mariners just drafted a guy in the 4th that had good second UCL surgery, McGraw.

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:21 pm
by Captain 97
I don't believe he had surgery the first time. He opted for rehab instead.

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:45 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Captain 97 wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:21 pm
I don't believe he had surgery the first time. He opted for rehab instead.
According to the article he did...
Ohtani previously tore the UCL in his right arm in 2018 and recovered from Tommy John surgery to become one of the best players in baseball, and its most successful two-way star ever.
Not sure if you were referring to Ohtani or McGraw.

Re: Breaking: Ohtani with a torn UCL, won't pitch, might not DH

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:48 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:03 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:56 am
That's why it could be disastrous for a team like the Mariners to sign him.
His price tag just went down by at least 50%. If he can't pitch he is just a DH. A damn good DH but the value of him filling two roster spots in elite historic fashion and the allure and mystic that it brings is up in smoke...
I'm talking about before this latest injury happened. A team like the Mariners can't put that many eggs in one basket.
Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Sign him. DH next season, then he can pitch in 2025. Mariners can handle signing him and not have him pitch next year. Still worth signing for 400 million over 10 years
You're insane.