Correlation between wins and payroll in 2023

[D-train]

I created two graphs. Even if you keep the 5 outliers in there. (Yankees, Mets and Padres were all good last season) the trend line of wins is negative as you lower payroll. A very clear correlation. If you remove the outliers the trends is even more blatant.

pr graph w.JPG (92.96 KiB) Viewed 346 times

[D-train]

pr graph wo.JPG (89.65 KiB) Viewed 345 times

[bpj]

Awesome, seems like a pretty clear trend.

I wouldn't put it past Dipoto if, "Be an outlier" was his unsung motto.

I wish they'd just come out and say if they're not going to reinvest in payroll.

Remember when their payroll was down 20% from the Cano-era and they convinced people that signing Julio through 2040 was their version of reinvesting it, and people bought it!?

Look, we spent $500M this offseason! But forget to point out that it was basically all on one lifetime contract and our payroll was still, in fact, 20% down from 2018 levels.

And people still blindly defended them.

I don't know what's in the water I'm Seattle, but a lot of those mfers are crazy.

[D-train]

2 of 30 orgs have managed to be an outlier in a positive way. The O's and the Rays. The O's had to suck ass for years to do it and the Rays are a freaking unicorn run by a baseball genius. Nobody wants to go through the former and call me crazy I haven't noticed any baseball genius in our FO so we need to spend top 10 style to compete.

[bpj]

2 of 30 orgs have managed to be an outlier in a positive way. The O's and the Rays. The O's had to suck ass for years to do it and the Rays are a freaking unicorn run by a baseball genius. Nobody wants to go through the former and call me crazy I haven't noticed any baseball genius in our FO so we need to spend top 10 style to compete.

Agreed!

The problem is Dipoto. They let him spend between $30M and $50M per year since 2016 on "his guys" and the returns have been spectacular fails-

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7302&p=208279#p208453

We could dive into 2023, list Robbie Ray, Chris Flexen, Marco Gonzales, Evan White, AJ Pollock, Tommy LaStella, and Diego Castillo, and how much better that $44M could have been used, but we won't do that....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... U/htmlview

[Seattle or Bust]

The people who say, "well... Locklear! Bliss! Scheiner! can be our 1B, 2B and right fielder next year!" drive me up a fucking wall.

"Save the money so we can pay George and Logan!"

Please just stop talking

[bpj]

I'm in the sign more pitching, then trade pitching for hitting camp.

[D-train]

I'm in the sign more pitching, then trade pitching for hitting camp.

Yep, I like Sonny Gray.

[D-train]

Dude has been a MACHINE the past 5 seasons.

sg.JPG (33.7 KiB) Viewed 292 times

[Gametime]

2 of 30 orgs have managed to be an outlier in a positive way. The O's and the Rays. The O's had to suck ass for years to do it and the Rays are a freaking unicorn run by a baseball genius. Nobody wants to go through the former and call me crazy I haven't noticed any baseball genius in our FO so we need to spend top 10 style to compete.

Agreed!

The problem is Dipoto. They let him spend between $30M and $50M per year since 2016 on "his guys" and the returns have been spectacular fails-

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7302&p=208279#p208453

We could dive into 2023, list Robbie Ray, Chris Flexen, Marco Gonzales, Evan White, AJ Pollock, Tommy LaStella, and Diego Castillo, and how much better that $44M could have been used, but we won't do that....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... U/htmlview

Been saying this for awhile. Can identify pitching, but really crap everywhere else.