Mariner Talk Chat Forum

FA Signings
Bellinger: 5 x $35M = $175M
Yamamoto: 7 x $27 = $189M

You won't believe Yamamoto's stats. 1.12 ERA and gave up 2 HRs in 171 innings. (Castillo gave up 28 HRs in 197 innings)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... mamo004yos

Trades:
Alonso and Luchessi for Kelenic Brandon Donovan for Woo and Trammel Let Jerry do his thing with the Bullpen. Hancock in AAA for depth. Sign Murphy for BU Catcher occasional DH

JP SS
Julio CF
Bellinger RF
Alonso 1B
Donovan LF
Cal C
France/Ford DH
Geno 3B
Rojas 2B

Now THAT is how you lengthen a LINEUP. Geno hitting EIGTH!

Rotation
Kirby
Castillo
Gilbert
Yamamoto
Miller

Bench
Murphy
Ford/France
Moore
Cabby

Housekeeping items: Trade Marco for whatever and pay whatever portion of his salary is required.

Even with no other moves your pen is looking pretty good

Munoz
Brash
Topa
Speier
Luchessi
Berroa
Campbell
Saucedo

wRC+

JP SS 134
Julio CF 126
Bellinger RF 134
Alonso 1B 121
Donovan LF 118
Cal C 111
France/Ford DH 104/123
Geno 3B 102
Rojas 2B 103

And look at the lovely L/R/L balance and sequencing!

Moore can Back up all 3 OF positions and an INF position
Bellinger can play 1st and all 3 OF positions
Ford can BU 1B
France can BU 1B and 3B/2B in a pinch
Cabby can BU 3B/SS/2B

Payroll Implications:
Current Payroll: $105M
Bellinger: +$35M
Yamamoto: +$27M
Alonso: +$22M
Marco: -$7M (we pay $5M)

New Payroll: $182M which would have put us at 13th in 2023 and probably will put us about 15th or average in 2024.

MLB payrolls in 2023
N.Y. Mets, $353,546,854
N.Y. Yankees, $276,999,872
San Diego, $248,995,932
Philadelphia, $243,009,439
L.A. Dodgers, $222,717,834
L.A. Angels, $212,228,096
Toronto, $ 209,938,983
Atlanta, $203,077,500
Texas, $195,869,490
Houston, $192,667,233
San Francisco, $187,932,500
Chicago Cubs, $184,219,250
Boston, $181,207,484
Chicago White Sox, $181,158,666
St. Louis, $175,637,308
Colorado, $171,108,778
Minnesota, $153,588,740
Seattle, $137,119,947
Detroit, $122,235,500
Milwaukee, $118,761,987
Arizona, $116,471,292
Washington, $ 101,190,153
Kansas City, $92,468,100
Miami, $91,700,000
Cleveland, 89,424,629
Cincinnati, $83,610,000
Pittsburgh, $73,277,500
Tampa Bay, $73,184,811
Baltimore, $60,722,300
Oakland, $56,895,000

Sweet, in your dreams you get Pete Alonso for JK

Donn Beach wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:56 pm

Sweet, in your dreams you get Pete Alonso for JK

Mets finally get their Golden Boy Back! Buys their GM 5 years of job security.

Btw JK put up 2.0 WAR in 416 PAs and Alonso put up 3.2 WAR in 657 PAs.

JK is still making minimum wage and isn't an FA until 2029. Alonso will make ~$22M and is a one year rental.

You're spent the last six months convincing me what a bust JK is but the Mets are going to view him as an outfield upgrade. And this is because Cohen gets to save some money, okay.

You want to trade JK? What I would find is a team that is actually on a limited budget, that might be interested in sacrificing at bats for the chance to develop an outfielder on the cheap, a rebuilding team. I can't see the Mets giving up as good a trade piece as Alonso for a player I can't see them having a use for

Donn Beach wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:31 pm

You're spent the last six months convincing me what a bust JK is but the Mets are going to view him as an outfield upgrade. And this is because Cohen gets to save some money, okay.

You want to trade JK? What I would find is a team that is actually on a limited budget, that might be interested in sacrificing at bats for the chance to develop an outfielder on the cheap, a rebuilding team. I can't see the Mets giving up as good a trade piece as Alonso for a player I can't see them having a use for

Mets have one good OFer in Nimmo. That is it. If they are intent on trading Alonso as has been public knowledge for months, JK is a perfect fit. Change of scenery all that jazz.

Seems like the Mets may be taking a step back year as opposed to the dichotomous strategies of tearing it down to the studs or just buying top level talent and cobbling together an all star roster. In this sense, JK does seem like a good fit - young, controllable and still owning untapped and unrealized potential. Cohen has a sense of urgency around reaching the post season (unlike the M’s FO), so they may be taking a risk in bringing on an underperformer with hopes of turning him around, but maybe they’ll use that as leverage to buy low.

For JK - I’d guess he’d pee his pants to be back with the Mets. I seem to recall him being a little upset at the trade, and he doesn’t seem to have warmed to the organization since he arrived.

Could work. Thanks for the proposal, DT. I like.