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Kyle Tucker trade

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by XpertDBA » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:10 pm

I agree with most. Houston would demand a lot more trading to a rival in its own division.

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm
If Juan Soto fetched what he got to go to the Yankees this year...

I imagine it would take something similar, probably more considering he's an Astro... I'm not sure why MLBTV has devalued him so much.

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I don't think a deal for Tucker gets done unless it's one of either Miller or Woo + one of our top 3 prospects, plus a couple arms 10-20.

I'd say it's Woo + Ford + 2 more.

And yes, I realize MLBTV would call that an overpay. At the end of May they had him at $56.5 million which is about what Soto sold for in that Yankees deal. Difference is, you'd get Tucker for a playoff push and another year...

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:09 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:10 pm
I agree with most. Houston would demand a lot more trading to a rival in its own division.
But they have to know Jerry isn't going to send them a King's ransom in prospects only to have them beat the shit out of us from 2026-30.
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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by GL_Storm » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:10 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm
If Juan Soto fetched what he got to go to the Yankees this year...

I imagine it would take something similar, probably more considering he's an Astro... I'm not sure why MLBTV has devalued him so much.

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I don't think a deal for Tucker gets done unless it's one of either Miller or Woo + one of our top 3 prospects, plus a couple arms 10-20.

I'd say it's Woo + Ford + 2 more.

And yes, I realize MLBTV would call that an overpay. At the end of May they had him at $56.5 million which is about what Soto sold for in that Yankees deal. Difference is, you'd get Tucker for a playoff push and another year...
I don't know if they would take Bryan Woo considering the health questions.

I wonder what the trade simulator would say about Miller for Tucker straight up? You're essentially trading 5+ years of control in Miller for 1 1/2 years of Tucker. I don't think DiPoto would do that but I wonder what the relative values are.

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:26 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:10 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm
If Juan Soto fetched what he got to go to the Yankees this year...

I imagine it would take something similar, probably more considering he's an Astro... I'm not sure why MLBTV has devalued him so much.

Image

I don't think a deal for Tucker gets done unless it's one of either Miller or Woo + one of our top 3 prospects, plus a couple arms 10-20.

I'd say it's Woo + Ford + 2 more.

And yes, I realize MLBTV would call that an overpay. At the end of May they had him at $56.5 million which is about what Soto sold for in that Yankees deal. Difference is, you'd get Tucker for a playoff push and another year...
I don't know if they would take Bryan Woo considering the health questions.

I wonder what the trade simulator would say about Miller for Tucker straight up? You're essentially trading 5+ years of control in Miller for 1 1/2 years of Tucker. I don't think DiPoto would do that but I wonder what the relative values are.
I think Woo is the arm from the rotation they'd be most willing to move.

I don't think you'd get Tucker straight up for either. It's a in division trade for a guy on pace to post 6 fWAR.

They bought Castillo for 2x top 100 prospects with the same control. Castillo wasn't as valuable as Tucker is.
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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by D-train » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:27 pm

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by GL_Storm » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:30 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:27 pm
Relative values are in the same ballpark with the edge going to Miller. That's about what I thought it would be.

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:53 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:27 pm
Yeah I just don't see that getting it done.

There's no way Tucker's value is that low given the Soto trades over the past few years.

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Re: Kyle Tucker trade

Post by Big_Maple » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:33 pm

I’m not sure the Asstros think they are out of it. They have had a string on injuries, their bullpen blows chunks, and their DH was batting a laughable .124 before they cut him loose. They still have a solid core of players, and some decent starting pitching. I don’t see them being sellers at the deadline, especially for Tucker, if they see themselves clawing back into contention.

If they get healthy, and they trade for a solid DH and a bullpen arm or two, they could easily start winning again.

Stranger things have happened: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the- ... rally/amp/

What’s more, unless we also trade for a stud starter to replace Miller, I wouldn’t want to weaken our rotation by trading away Miller, Woo et al.

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