Breaking Polanco's option declined

[D-train]

At least we can be confident that their IQ is higher than 54

[tehmc]

Beat you to it on the Hot Stove thread

Not terribly surprised but I would have been fine if they had picked it up. I can't see him being that bad again next year.

[D-train]

Actually nice to start the off season with good news. Never have see that Alien looking like freak in an M's uniform again.

[bpj]

Almost $20M they won't be paying those two next season.

Glad they're not going to try either of those experiments again.

[Big_Maple]

Actually nice to start the off season with good news. Never have see that Alien looking like freak in an M's uniform again.

So, I know this will be poo-poo'd by many, but here's an interesting idea. What about the international FA market? Lots of teams have signed top FA players from Japan and Korea in the last few years - why not the M's?

Here an interesting dude: Hyeseong Kim from the KBO.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hyes ... er-report/

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... m---016hye

He's a young (25) left-handed hitter who has some speed on the basepaths. He has a career slash line of .301/.361/.398. The red flag is that he doesn't hit for power, but he's starting to get a little more pop in his bat lately. He's a contact hitter who gets on base (9.8% strikeout rate!) Basically, I can see this guy becoming a Luis Arreaz, and god knows we missed the boat on him.

I don't know what he'll demand in terms of contract, but I have to think it would be cheaper than a lot of FA, and possibly less than your average 2B we could get through trade. Yeah, he may dip as he adjusts to the MLB, but even if we get a 2B who hits for .280 and can swipe 30 bags, we'd have a serious upgrade compared to the last 4 or 5 years of shitshow at second.

[bpj]

Actually nice to start the off season with good news. Never have see that Alien looking like freak in an M's uniform again.

So, I know this will be poo-poo'd by many, but here's an interesting idea. What about the international FA market? Lots of teams have signed top FA players from Japan and Korea in the last few years - why not the M's?

Here an interesting dude: Hyeseong Kim from the KBO.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hyes ... er-report/

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... m---016hye

He's a young (25) left-handed hitter who has some speed on the basepaths. He has a career slash line of .301/.361/.398. The red flag is that he doesn't hit for power, but he's starting to get a little more pop in his bat lately. He's a contact hitter who gets on base (9.8% strikeout rate!) Basically, I can see this guy becoming a Luis Arreaz, and god knows we missed the boat on him.

I don't know what he'll demand in terms of contract, but I have to think it would be cheaper than a lot of FA, and possibly less than your average 2B we could get through trade. Yeah, he may dip as he adjusts to the MLB, but even if we get a 2B who hits for .280 and can swipe 30 bags, we'd have a serious upgrade compared to the last 4 or 5 years of shitshow at second.

Seems like a good idea to go after the foreign guys in my opinion.

Maybe a little more in their price range, and there's not much upside on the free agent market this offseason.

[Juliooooo]

Almost $20M they won't be paying those two next season.

Glad they're not going to try either of those experiments again.

Both were dumb to begin with. Just keep Geno, play Moore and Rojas at 2B, and keep the prospect you traded away. All those moves and they didn't really even save money.

[D-train]

Beat you to it on the Hot Stove thread

Not terribly surprised but I would have been fine if they had picked it up. I can't see him being that bad again next year.

All Mariner moves can have their own thread if you are so inclined. I bet you he isn't ready for opening day and plays less than 100 games.

[D-train]

Actually nice to start the off season with good news. Never have see that Alien looking like freak in an M's uniform again.

So, I know this will be poo-poo'd by many, but here's an interesting idea. What about the international FA market? Lots of teams have signed top FA players from Japan and Korea in the last few years - why not the M's?

Here an interesting dude: Hyeseong Kim from the KBO.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hyes ... er-report/

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... m---016hye

He's a young (25) left-handed hitter who has some speed on the basepaths. He has a career slash line of .301/.361/.398. The red flag is that he doesn't hit for power, but he's starting to get a little more pop in his bat lately. He's a contact hitter who gets on base (9.8% strikeout rate!) Basically, I can see this guy becoming a Luis Arreaz, and god knows we missed the boat on him.

I don't know what he'll demand in terms of contract, but I have to think it would be cheaper than a lot of FA, and possibly less than your average 2B we could get through trade. Yeah, he may dip as he adjusts to the MLB, but even if we get a 2B who hits for .280 and can swipe 30 bags, we'd have a serious upgrade compared to the last 4 or 5 years of shitshow at second.

An .841 OPS in Korea is probably about a .641 OPS in MLB.

Dae Ho Lee went from a 1.011 OPS in KBO to .740 in MLB. Then went back and had a .925 OPS.

[D-train]

Almost $20M they won't be paying those two next season.

Glad they're not going to try either of those experiments again.

Both were dumb to begin with. Just keep Geno, play Moore and Rojas at 2B, and keep the prospect you traded away. All those moves and they didn't really even save money.

Exactly. And they did it to cut down on Ks!! LOL