I am warming up to Nico

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[Big_Maple]

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In this article in the Seattle Times, they consider him to be our best option at 2B available through trade:

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mar ... se-riddle/

I have been quietly hoping the M's pull this off, but I don't want to jinx it.

MLBTR is in on this speculation, too:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... erner.html

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If they sign Santana for full time 1B and then rotate the top four OFers through DH and then roll with Rivas/Bliss at 2B and Moore/Shenton at 3B that would be the absolute floor for the off season and it would be disgusting if that is all they do but it wouldn't be a horrible offense.

I am thinking of adopting a new philosophy of not stressing about things I can't control and just accepting the situation as an is what it is scenario because it really is. Nothing we can do about it an we have run out of ways to say how horrible it is so what's the point continuing down that path. I shall just root for the guys we have. That is all any of us fans can control after all.


Good piece here by Kramer.

https://links.mlb.mlbemail.com/e/evib?_ ... EwSA%3D%3D

[Big_Maple]

I shall just root for the guys we have. That is all any of us fans can control after all.

Can I get an "amen"?

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Cubs fans react to the prospect of a Nico Hoerner trade to Seattle:

https://northsidebaseball.com/forums/to ... o-hoerner/

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Cubs fans react to the prospect of a Nico Hoerner trade to Seattle:

https://northsidebaseball.com/forums/to ... o-hoerner/

They aren't going to pass up Nico because he doesn't play 1B or 3B. I don't understand how people can come to some of the conclusions they do.

[bpj]

I don't have anything against him, but wouldn't give up much to get him personally. Especially to watch him play in T-Mobile.

Since 2022-

[GL_Storm]

Nico Hoerner could be a fit. It's counterintuitive because he doesn't hit for power, but TMO is where power hitters die anyway and he does everything else pretty well. Super slow bat though.

[Pharmabro]

Nico Hoerner could be a fit. It's counterintuitive because he doesn't hit for power, but TMO is where power hitters die anyway and he does everything else pretty well. Super slow bat though.

He has a super contact bat low K's and BB %. I don't know if that profile would play well at all in T-Mo. The only thing it doesn't negate at or near the worst for hitters is HR #s.

I's switch up to Lowe, and Burger. and then 1 of the 30's or 40 year old 1B: Walker, Santana, or JT

Walker was predicted to get 3 X 20MM/ The same number they predicted for Kik who got 3 for 61M total. Walker has won the Gold Glove the last 2 years and has been a 116 to 126 OPS+ the last 3 years. He is a good, not great bat and I still have a stigma where if you sign a guy for 20M a year he needs to be "the straw that stirs the drink"

That works if you pack up Haniger's 17.5M along with a prospect or 2. Lowe adds 10M, Burger is pre arb, that would add 13-14 Million and you could still add a decent BP guy, + prefer a South Paw.

1. Robles RF
2. JRod CF
3. Raley* DH
4. Walker 1B
5. Cal** C
6. Randy LF
7. Lowe* 2B
8. Burger 3B
9. JP*

Bench Garver, Moore, Bliss + 1 0f (T-Lock, Canzone*, etc)

Walker has averaged 30 (doubles and triples combined) and 32 HRs and averaged 94 RBI/ year the last three years.

Burger 26 (2x, & 3X), 32 HRs, and 78 RBI in 139 games played averaged the last 2 years.

Lowe: Has averaged 108 games the last 2 years and has hit 21 HR in each year, averaged 19 (doubles plus triples) and has averaged 63 RBI. Based on a near 162 games season you are looking at 30-30 and 90 to 100 RBI. And Rays hitters we have traded for have generally lived up to billing: Raley 129 OPS+, Randy 118 OPS+, Denard Span 113 OPS+

That line-up from 2-8 you expect 20-40 HR

As for the bench
The last 4 seasons Walker misses 21 games per season
Burger misses 23 per
Lowe last 2 misses 54
Raley last 2 seasons misses an average of 34
Randy over the last 4 averages 12 games missed a season

Those 5 = 144 games available for the bench. And that is not all, those include pinch hits, runs, defensive replacements and removed due to injury, replacement.

I view Dilly Moore as the MLB version of the NBA's 6th-man. He is the 1st off the bench. He is not a starter but gets almost starter minutes by being that next man up at many positions.

This team looks competitive. What do you guys think?

[bpj]

Nico Hoerner could be a fit. It's counterintuitive because he doesn't hit for power, but TMO is where power hitters die anyway and he does everything else pretty well. Super slow bat though.

He has a super contact bat low K's and BB %. I don't know if that profile would play well at all in T-Mo. The only thing it doesn't negate at or near the worst for hitters is HR #s.

I's switch up to Lowe, and Burger. and then 1 of the 30's or 40 year old 1B: Walker, Santana, or JT

Walker was predicted to get 3 X 20MM/ The same number they predicted for Kik who got 3 for 61M total. Walker has won the Gold Glove the last 2 years and has been a 116 to 126 OPS+ the last 3 years. He is a good, not great bat and I still have a stigma where if you sign a guy for 20M a year he needs to be "the straw that stirs the drink"

That works if you pack up Haniger's 17.5M along with a prospect or 2. Lowe adds 10M, Burger is pre arb, that would add 13-14 Million and you could still add a decent BP guy, + prefer a South Paw.

1. Robles RF
2. JRod CF
3. Raley* DH
4. Walker 1B
5. Cal** C
6. Randy LF
7. Lowe* 2B
8. Burger 3B
9. JP*

Bench Garver, Moore, Bliss + 1 0f (T-Lock, Canzone*, etc)

Walker has averaged 30 (doubles and triples combined) and 32 HRs and averaged 94 RBI/ year the last three years.

Burger 26 (2x, & 3X), 32 HRs, and 78 RBI in 139 games played averaged the last 2 years.

Lowe: Has averaged 108 games the last 2 years and has hit 21 HR in each year, averaged 19 (doubles plus triples) and has averaged 63 RBI. Based on a near 162 games season you are looking at 30-30 and 90 to 100 RBI. And Rays hitters we have traded for have generally lived up to billing: Raley 129 OPS+, Randy 118 OPS+, Denard Span 113 OPS+

That line-up from 2-8 you expect 20-40 HR

As for the bench
The last 4 seasons Walker misses 21 games per season
Burger misses 23 per
Lowe last 2 misses 54
Raley last 2 seasons misses an average of 34
Randy over the last 4 averages 12 games missed a season

Those 5 = 144 games available for the bench. And that is not all, those include pinch hits, runs, defensive replacements and removed due to injury, replacement.

I view Dilly Moore as the MLB version of the NBA's 6th-man. He is the 1st off the bench. He is not a starter but gets almost starter minutes by being that next man up at many positions.

This team looks competitive. What do you guys think?

I think adding Walker, Lowe and Burger would be a legitimate offseason worthy of getting excited about.