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[Sibelius Hindemith]

Excuse me but isn't that Charbonnet? Why would they need to add an additional rb?

Article on what a Fraley hire could mean

Charbonnet is a downhill, physical runner who prefers to run through defenders instead of trying to run around them. In that way, he's just like Lions running back David Montgomery. Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs make up a one-two punch tandem that has electrified the NFL. Montgomery is putting up better stats in two years with Detroit than in four years with the Bears. He's doing so on less carries, putting up over 1700 yards and 25 touchdowns in 24 games.

https://www.si.com/college/ucla/footbal ... jj6ev2getd

Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events but Charbonnet got his ass kicked in short yardage situations this past season. He doesn't have the burst.

[Pharmabro]

Pick no 20 Kelvin Banks Jr. OT Texas #14 overall my trade partner took the 1st OT at pick #18 (#1 ranked OT)= Banks

#50 Walter Nolen DT Ole Miss ranked # 28 overall (#4 DT)

#54 Colston Loveland TE Michigan #36 ranked overall (#3 TE)

#87 Dylan Fairchild OG Georgia # 80th overall (#5 OG)

#173 Kyle Monangai RB Rutgers #145 ranked (#11 RB)

#186 #178th ranked Jaylin Noel WR Iowa State (#22 WR)

#196 Seth McLaughlin OC Ohio State 188th ranked (4th ranked OC)

#212 Patrick Jenkins DT Tulane 193rd ranked (# 19 DT)

#236 Cody Simon LB Ohio State #219 (#15 in LBs)

The OL is fixed Cross is already good but now he is paired well with the #1 OT in the draft. You bring in the 4th best OC, and the 5th best OG and the line should be solid.

Walter Nolen is the 4th best DT in the draft and really helps out what could be a dominant front 4.

[Pharmabro]

Here is a no trade draft.

O.L
#1 OG
#2 center
#4 OT

[Pharmabro]

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[Sibelius Hindemith]

Pick no 20 Kelvin Banks Jr. OT Texas #14 overall my trade partner took the 1st OT at pick #18 (#1 ranked OT)= Banks

Just curious but why did you trade down with Banks available at 18?

#54 Colston Loveland TE Michigan #36 ranked overall (#3 TE)

That's weird, Loveland was ranked #16 overall (#1 TE) on the simulator up until a week ago. What happened?

The OL is fixed Cross is already good but now he is paired well with the #1 OT in the draft. You bring in the 4th best OC, and the 5th best OG and the line should be solid.

Sounds like Oluwatimi and Haynes, not much to get excited about.

[Donn Beach]

Excuse me but isn't that Charbonnet? Why would they need to add an additional rb?

Article on what a Fraley hire could mean

Charbonnet is a downhill, physical runner who prefers to run through defenders instead of trying to run around them. In that way, he's just like Lions running back David Montgomery. Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs make up a one-two punch tandem that has electrified the NFL. Montgomery is putting up better stats in two years with Detroit than in four years with the Bears. He's doing so on less carries, putting up over 1700 yards and 25 touchdowns in 24 games.

https://www.si.com/college/ucla/footbal ... jj6ev2getd

Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events but Charbonnet got his ass kicked in short yardage situations this past season. He doesn't have the burst.

Actually charbonnet strength is considered to be his burst.

Charbonnet has a good burst and accelerates relatively well for a bigger back. That acceleration allows him to be patient behind the line of scrimmage and allow his blocks to be established before accelerating downhill. He does a good job of exploding through the line of scrimmage and consistently has two hands on the ball when he runs through traffic

Charbonnet is a true one-cut runner and isn’t able to string multiple moves together or make defenders miss in space. Likewise, while he has a good initial burst, he lacks great long speed. He can be run down from behind and isn’t going to force bad angles on defenders

https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/4/5/23 ... iants-news

[Donn Beach]

I don't think the short yardage issues are more along the lines of losing the battle in the trenches, play design and calling, crisp execution

Here's a Smith article on their lack of success. Grubb started trying some different things like a two back look.

Looking to make life more difficult on the Jets defense, Grubb deployed a fair amount of two-back personnel groupings on Sunday with Walker and Charbonnet on the field together. In particular, on two specific 3rd and 1 situations, Charbonnet lined up as an offset fullback and Walker lined up as a wing back nestled outside of two tight ends on the strong side of the formation.

In both instances, Walker ran jet motion across the formation and Smith took the snap as the speedy back raced behind him, forcing the defense to account for the possibility of a jet sweep handoff. But he served as a mere decoy with Charbonnet taking the handoff on a pair of fullback dives, and the second-year back turned those opportunities into a seven-yard gain and an eight-yard game-winning touchdown on two of Seattle's best running plays all afternoon.

From Grubb's perspective, echoing Smith's comments earlier from Thursday, cleaner execution remains the biggest checkmark for the Seahawks to address in short yardage from the offensive line to skill players. But he also indicated he and the rest of the coaching staff have to continue working to improve from a planning standpoint to help players achieve success between the lines in those scenarios, seeing both aspects as part of the solution

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seahawk ... es-persist

[Michael K.]

We have 3 very different backs. Use draft picks elsewhere.

We have a starter that is always hurt and two backups that aren’t NFL quality starters.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Actually charbonnet strength is considered to be his burst.

Charbonnet has a good burst and accelerates relatively well for a bigger back. That acceleration allows him to be patient behind the line of scrimmage and allow his blocks to be established before accelerating downhill. He does a good job of exploding through the line of scrimmage and consistently has two hands on the ball when he runs through traffic

If he has good burst he wasn't using it in those situations. You can't wait for a lane to open up in short yardage plays, you have to take the rock and go even if there's nothing there.

[Gametime]

We have 3 very different backs. Use draft picks elsewhere.

We have a starter that is always hurt and two backups that aren’t NFL quality starters.

And not good enough oline, need TE, need a qb, need secondary, need line backers. RB is low. Fill in with a vet FA. No need to draft yet another. Heck we don’t even know enough about our third back.

Spend draft picks elsewhere. You can get solid RBs on the FA market for not a ton. Use picks to take needs. And or trade up. Don’t throw more draft picks at rb.