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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:00 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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Actually charbonnet strength is considered to be his burst.
Charbonnet has a good burst and accelerates relatively well for a bigger back. That acceleration allows him to be patient behind the line of scrimmage and allow his blocks to be established before accelerating downhill. He does a good job of exploding through the line of scrimmage and consistently has two hands on the ball when he runs through traffic
If he has good burst he wasn't using it in those situations. You can't wait for a lane to open up in short yardage plays, you have to take the rock and go even if there's nothing there.
Sure, and when nothing is there you get stopped for no gain,

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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:25 pm

But you can still push through defenders or move the pile for a short gain. You have to trust in your blockers to help out though. If you hesitate you're more likely to get swallowed up. It takes a more aggressive attitude. Perhaps Charbonnet will become more like that over time.
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Post by Michael K. » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:26 pm

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Spend draft picks elsewhere. You can get solid RBs on the FA market for not a ton. Use picks to take needs. And or trade up. Don’t throw more draft picks at rb.
I'll be curious to see how the recent impact of the backs I mentioned earlier has on the market. But you aren't wrong. By NFL standards? Most of these guys are playing at a very affordable rate.

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Post by Michael K. » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:28 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:25 pm
But you can still push through defenders or move the pile for a short gain. You have to trust in your blockers to help out tough. If you hesitate you're more likely to get swallowed up. It takes a more aggressive attitude. Perhaps Charbonnet will become more like that over time.
I don't know how often RBs become MORE physical. More likely they become Shaun Alexander once paid and fall down and lay there with their hand up waiting to be picked off the ground. That dude went from a machine to a baby in one big time contract. I think that was the beginning of the end for RBs. Maybe, as I said, Barkley, Henry and Mixon change that. But it sure is frequent that these guys get paid and are broken physically, like Gurly, or mentally, like Alexander.

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:38 pm

The power run game had been enjoying a resurgence earlier in the season. Offensive lines have been getting heavier and defensive lines lighter

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Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:54 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:28 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:25 pm
But you can still push through defenders or move the pile for a short gain. You have to trust in your blockers to help out tough. If you hesitate you're more likely to get swallowed up. It takes a more aggressive attitude. Perhaps Charbonnet will become more like that over time.
I don't know how often RBs become MORE physical. More likely they become Shaun Alexander once paid and fall down and lay there with their hand up waiting to be picked off the ground. That dude went from a machine to a baby in one big time contract. I think that was the beginning of the end for RBs. Maybe, as I said, Barkley, Henry and Mixon change that. But it sure is frequent that these guys get paid and are broken physically, like Gurly, or mentally, like Alexander.
I think that Alexander was an extreme case. Guy went from almost 1,900 rushing yards and 27 TDs to not being able to elude Donn Beach overnight, and I can't think of anyone else who ever just totally lost it like he did. His predecessor Ricky Watters I recall was a banger right up until Alexander took his starting job and Watters retired.

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Post by Michael K. » Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:10 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
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I think that Alexander was an extreme case. Guy went from almost 1,900 rushing yards and 27 TDs to not being able to elude Donn Beach overnight, and I can't think of anyone else who ever just totally lost it like he did. His predecessor Ricky Watters I recall was a banger right up until Alexander took his starting job and Watters retired.
Alexander wasn't banged up....I think that guy played football for the money. I can't imagine a guy that played the way he did loved the game. He got paid and stopped caring. Yes, that is an extreme case, but there are so many cautionary tales out there...before this year. That said, how often do guys like Barkley, Henry and Mixon come along? Adrian Peterson I guess, but even he was mostly washed up once he left Minnesota. Granted, that was after seven pretty damn good seasons, a season ending injury that he came back from like Super Man. But then? Again, basically done.

Funny how things change though. Take a look at this list of top paid WRs. It's like a who's who list of guys that either didn't make the playoffs or are already out of the playoffs. So? Makes you wonder if the tides will shift, and now that defenses have adjusted to the passing game? Offenses are going to start focusing on Backs and O Lineman?

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Just for kicks? How about the line? Kind of an interesting mix, but still....paying them doesn't necessarily mean playoff success.

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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:33 am

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I wanted to take Taj Brooks due to his size and running style but Manongai dropped and is a better option to fill in for the oft-injured Walker.

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Re: Thread for draft simulations:

Post by Michael K. » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:20 pm

I see a lot of Tyler Warren. Am I the only one high on AJ Barner?

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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:23 pm

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I see a lot of Tyler Warren. Am I the only one high on AJ Barner?
I lile Barner, but i am assuming (or hoping rather) that Fant will be cut and Brown won't be re-signed. I think Barner is a decent back-up but they need someone that can do it all at a high level.

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