Jody did fire him, but there is no way no how John wasn't involved in the firing. He wanted full control.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:15 pmI think John has gotten something of a free pass after 2013, but don't forget Pete had final word on roster moves including draft picks, although we don't know how much of an impact he had on those decisions. And John didn't fire Pete, Jody did.
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I can see his point, Kupp is older, he's also coming off two straight down seasons isn't he, he does seem risky to meMichael K. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:22 pmYou posted it, and I explained why I disagree. Have an opinion about it or don't, I don't give a shit. But saying he brought in guys like Kupp so he's changed? That's just stupid. Kupp is just an older version of Harvin and Graham. He is a big name, local guy, the fans love it, and many of them are talking about that and not the dogshit offensive line. Win for JS. Remind you of Harvin, Graham, Adams or any other long list of big names added when that played spots NOT on the O Line?Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:25 pmIts not my point, it's the guys writing the articles point. The point being JS has been signing high risk free agents. If they were to all crash and burn maybe it's the last of JS, who knows. If you don't agree that his signings are high risk okay, not going to debate it with you
He has added one depth piece on the O Line, hired new coaches and told us how great the guys here are, they just need new coaches. No different then every year that dude has been here. He devalues the O Line, and how many playoff games have we won since second and goal? Not many. The Defending Super Bowl Champs had two amazing Lines. No one won significant games last year the way we tried to. It's a minor miracle we were only a game out. So he doubles down, yet again.
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They were injury shortened seasons but I wouldn't say they were down seasons. He was still very productive when he was on the field and was on pace for over 1000 yards in both years if he had played all 17 games.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:55 pmI can see his point, Kupp is older, he's also coming off two straight down seasons isn't he, he does seem risky to meMichael K. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:22 pmYou posted it, and I explained why I disagree. Have an opinion about it or don't, I don't give a shit. But saying he brought in guys like Kupp so he's changed? That's just stupid. Kupp is just an older version of Harvin and Graham. He is a big name, local guy, the fans love it, and many of them are talking about that and not the dogshit offensive line. Win for JS. Remind you of Harvin, Graham, Adams or any other long list of big names added when that played spots NOT on the O Line?Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:25 pmIts not my point, it's the guys writing the articles point. The point being JS has been signing high risk free agents. If they were to all crash and burn maybe it's the last of JS, who knows. If you don't agree that his signings are high risk okay, not going to debate it with you
He has added one depth piece on the O Line, hired new coaches and told us how great the guys here are, they just need new coaches. No different then every year that dude has been here. He devalues the O Line, and how many playoff games have we won since second and goal? Not many. The Defending Super Bowl Champs had two amazing Lines. No one won significant games last year the way we tried to. It's a minor miracle we were only a game out. So he doubles down, yet again.
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Okay, and he's 31 years old, seems to me there's an element of risk to the signing
Kupp’s momentum has been hampered by mounting injuries. There was a torn ACL in 2018, a high ankle sprain in 2022, a lingering hamstring issue in 2023 and another ankle injury in 2024. The 6-2, 207-pound receiver has been sidelined for 18 games in the past three seasons. And at 31, Kupp’s durability could continue to decline
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Article on how they still have hope in Haynes developing, nothing new in it
https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seahawk ... an-develop
https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seahawk ... an-develop
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From matt calkins article, seemed cute
. Since then the team has signed quarterback Sam Darnold, edge player DeMarcus Lawrence and receiver Cooper Kupp. The latter is the holy trinity of The Impossible To Know What To Expect. You could fit a redwood between the floor and ceiling for all three of these guys.
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So, he took a risk on a former All Pro WR, and all of a sudden he is switching gears? Again, I don't buy it. He is still throwing scraps at the O Line and going after every other position, even thought the weakest link is the O Line. All the bullshit that is written about this FO that DOESN'T talk about the O Line is like reading about the Mariners and it's not about how their offense has been dogshit for a decade. It's a bunch of fluff. JS has had a decent run, but his style is fucked, and he knows if he changes now it's admitting he was wrong, so he fucking doubles down and tells us, yet again, these O Lineman we have are fine, they just need a different coaching staff and offensive style. Because that worked from Bates to Bevell to Schotty to Waldron to Grubb....right? Keep slobbering up the BS, don't look behind the curtain.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:55 pmI can see his point, Kupp is older, he's also coming off two straight down seasons isn't he, he does seem risky to me
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The article is about his three significant FA signings, that they have something in common, they all carry a pretty high level of risk. That to me is obvious, and it's getting pointed out by various writers. The question would be is this a change of direction for the more conservative JS. Im going to say it's a function of the situation. He wasn't expecting to be trading Geno and DK. And he countered with some high risk signings. Calkins compared it to Dipoto bringing in haniger, polanco and Garver. I think there's a legitimate comparison, guys past 30 with injury concerns. If they were to crash and burn like dipoto's did JS's neck is going to be stretched out. On top of another shitty Oline if that's the case
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Again, I don't give a shit how he adds the players. FA or trade...he is adding the same types of players. Again, it's a bullshit article...and it's more fluff that covers up the real problem. He refuses to invest in the O Line. I don't give a shit if the investment is because he traded for one or he signed one, he doesn't do it. We draft them and they either suck or we suck at developing them or both.
It's not a change. Fine Don, you are right, he actually signed some free agents. I guess Avril and Bennett don't count? Bradley McDougaled? Brandon Browner? Search up Seahawk Free Agents. You'll find that we have signed them, you just won't find one for an O Lineman that made any type of significant contribution.
Jesus, you are like a dog with a bone. Tell me what fucking player we added this off season that is out of character?
It's not a change. Fine Don, you are right, he actually signed some free agents. I guess Avril and Bennett don't count? Bradley McDougaled? Brandon Browner? Search up Seahawk Free Agents. You'll find that we have signed them, you just won't find one for an O Lineman that made any type of significant contribution.
Jesus, you are like a dog with a bone. Tell me what fucking player we added this off season that is out of character?
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https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/ ... t-signing/
I'm not doing anymore of this for you. Go find another article from some lap dog telling us how great Schneider is. After that, Google how many playoff games we've won since second and goal, then find me one that wasn't because of a 19 yard missed FG, a 45 year old QB with a broken back or the shitty ass Lions. You won't be able to. He failed to adapt, and refuses to now because it would be admitting he was wrong.
Same reason he traded back for all those years. It worked once, and he wanted to show the world he was smarter than everyone else.
Gallery, some guy names Steve Schilling, Webb and Sowell. Really invests in the O Line right? Throwing bad money at a problem. It's constant with the O Line. But that list is only up to 2016. We don't sign FAs? Rice, Miller, Branch and Flynn? Cary Williams, Antoine Winfield and McDougald in the secondary?2010
Big signings: TE Chris Baker, two years, $4.7 million; OL Ben Hamilton, one year, $2 million.
Comment: The Seahawks made about a zillion transactions in the first year of Carroll/Schneider, give or take, but most were trades (Charlie Whitehurst, Leon Washington, etc.). Baker was a blocking tight end who caught nine passes and then suffered a fractured hip and was released the following spring. Hamilton started six games for the Seahawks before being injured and never playing again. The true building of the Seahawks in this season occurred through the draft, where Seattle got the likes of Earl Thomas, Russell Okung, Golden Tate, Walter Thurmond and Kam Chancellor.
2011
Big signings: Sidney Rice, five years, $41 million; TE Zach Miller, five years, $34 million; DT Alan Branch, two years, $8 million; OL Robert Gallery, three years, $15 million; QB Tarvaris Jackson, two years, $8 million.
Comment: In Carroll and Schneider’s second year, and more cognizant of what they needed, the Seahawks were as aggressive in free agency as they have ever been, spending big to try to add offensive skill players and an immediate starting QB, as well as the most money they have ever given to a free agent OL in Gallery. Gallery, though, dealt with a couple of injuries in starting just 12 games that season and was released the following spring. That the signings of Hamilton and Gallery didn’t work undoubtedly has contributed to Seattle’s desire to build a line more so through the draft.
2012
Big signings: QB Matt Flynn, three years, $20.5 million; DT Jason Jones, one year, $4.5 million.
Comment: By this point, the new Seattle brain trust had a better idea of what it had — an emerging defense, a good offensive skill core to build around (Marshawn Lynch, Rice, Miller, Doug Baldwin) — and set their sights on a QB, quickly targeting Flynn. But in what may be the best exemplification of the team’s “Always Compete’’ motto, giving big money to Flynn didn’t stop the Seahawks from using a third-round pick a few weeks later on Russell Wilson. Jones was serviceable but Seattle didn’t bother matching a three-year, $9.5 million deal he got from Detroit the following season.
2013
Big signings: DE Cliff Avril, two years, $12 million; DE Michael Bennett, one year, $5 million; CB Antoine Winfield, one year, $3 million; DT Tony McDaniel, two years, $2.7 million.
Comment: With an obvious foundation in place following the rise in the second half of 2012, Seattle was able to selectively target needs in 2013 to beef up the defensive line, and especially a pass rush that had been wanting at times late in the year — while also making a blockbuster trade for WR Percy Harvin that also took up a fair share of cap space. Seattle benefited from a loaded DL class to get Bennett and Avril to deals that rank among the best signings in team history — especially Bennett’s, maybe the best free-agent signing Seattle has ever made.
2014
Big signing: OL Stephen Schilling, one year, $645,000.
Comment: Yep, Schilling was about it for Seattle free-agent signings in the year after the Super Bowl win when the Seahawks instead spent the offseason largely giving big extensions to some of their own players, notably Bennett, Thomas, Richard Sherman and Doug Baldwin, and also preparing for what they knew was the big money they’d need to give to Wilson a year later.
2015
Big signings: DL Ahtyba Rubin, one year, $2.6 million; CB Cary Williams, three years, $18 million.
Comment: After another Super Bowl run, Seattle again spent the offseason largely re-signing its own players — Wilson, Bobby Wagner as well as Avril and K.J. Wright the previous winter— while also using some cap space to make a trade for TE Jimmy Graham. Williams signed a specific need of replacing the departed Byron Maxwell at about a third of what Maxwell received. Neither deal really worked out for either team and the Williams signing goes down as one of the worst in recent Seattle history as he was released by the end of November.
2016
Big signings: OL J’Marcus Webb, two years, $5.45 million; OL Bradley Sowell, one year, $1 million.
Comment: Last year was another offseason when the Seahawks again largely concentrated on keeping their own, giving a big extension to Baldwin and re-upping the likes of Rubin, Jeremy Lane and Jermaine Kearse. Seattle hoped Webb and Sowell would be low-cost but reliable veterans. Webb, though, proved a disappointment, released before December.
I'm not doing anymore of this for you. Go find another article from some lap dog telling us how great Schneider is. After that, Google how many playoff games we've won since second and goal, then find me one that wasn't because of a 19 yard missed FG, a 45 year old QB with a broken back or the shitty ass Lions. You won't be able to. He failed to adapt, and refuses to now because it would be admitting he was wrong.
Same reason he traded back for all those years. It worked once, and he wanted to show the world he was smarter than everyone else.