Postmortem: Seattle v The World

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Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by auroraave » Tue Oct 21, 2025 2:09 pm

Painful night in Seattle for sports fans. Condolences to you hard core M's fans who had your hopes and dreams shattered for a World Series appearance after 50 years of misery, mediocrity, and some glorious Griffey sprinkled in between. I did not watch any games after Toronto tied it at 2-2. That felt like a harbinger of defeat. I am not big M's fan, I am a sideline observer who steps forward only when they are good. Yes, I am fair weather fan and I make no apologies for not spending my time and money on mediocrity. I don't eat at 'meh' restaurants, I don't drive a fucking Kia, and if you aren't actively and obviously trying to win or upgrade your team, that's a big no thanks from me - too many other things to do with this life.

The Mariner's pattern of streakiness came alive and wore me out. People will say they went up 2-0 - and they did - but then went 1-4 the rest of the way. Streakiness. Swinging for the fences. I'd like to give Toronto credit, but it seems to me, from what I saw and kept tabs on, Seattle had chance after chance after chance after chance after chance to get it done. They didn't. NR4PT. "Not Ready for Prime Time."

I don't lament the loss as a broken hearted fan - but for the real M's fans who deserved this on a level rarely seen before. The chance to finally dance in the Big One, to erase the years of heartbreak and, even worse, the decades of nothingness, meaningless basebell, of knowing there is no chance, knowing this is not our year, etc. There is an upside. The front office took a big swing at the deadline - and it made a big difference. FINALLY.

If Seattle can develop a wining culture - and that will take time, if they can string together some division titles, keep the core together, make small improvements, this team can have a bright future. It just wasn't this year, and that sucks. You could just feel everyone dying to exhale, the smile and say we finally did it. But, Mariner's are gonna Mariner - until they stop. Full stop.

It least it appears they are on the right track. Let's see where they go from here.

On to the Seahawks ugly, awful, shitty win. For some reason the offense did everyhting they could to give the ZOmbie Oilers an early Christmas gift win. What the literal fuck were we doing going into halftime just draiing the clock making NO effort to score a TD? As soon as they lined up for the FG, I just assumed they'd miss it because, of fucking course they would. Gotta keep the Zombie Oilers in it. JFC.

Seattle needs to get an offensive playmaker, STAT. JSN is not going to last at this rate - we are wracking up mileage on him and, whjile he is an excellent receiver, teams will figure out a coverage scheme for him - or worse - he'll get injured. We need a Percy Harvin type that can play anywhere to balance it all out. I like Kupp and Horton, but they aren't the key, IMO.

Darnold finally had an 'off' game, to be fair, it was against a formidable defense, and we still managed to pull it out. AT times he was carving them up, and at other times therewas a lot of miserable running attempts. Seattle rushed for over 100, a surprisingly strong performance because it was ugly a lot of the time. Bradford is a weak link, but here we are. That's not gonna change.

That defense is legit and may be better than the sum of their parts. Ignore the the individual stats like sacks, those numbers are because the guys NOT getting credit are doing their jobs well - that is creating opportunities for others - that is the most important aspect to understand.

The run defense is no longer a liability. The pass defense - nearing full strength - is looking legit. The defense is coming together faster than the offense - and that's okay, that's the glue that'll hold it all together and get this team to the playoffs - where anything can happen.

Something to consider when hand-wringing about conservative offense play calling - sometimes it's a bigger picture tactic - reduce risk (and by risk I mean Kupp tossing int's and Darnold fumbling in the endzone :lol: ) to lean on the D to win games while the offense grows closer to thier ceiling. Sometimes those ugly wins piling up will turn into glorious and exciting wins down the road. Big picture. I did not like some of the play calling at all, but I don't think this team's coaching staff is looking to impress now, but rather down the road when it counts - while positioning themselves for the playoffs with these ugly wins. We have not seen the best of this offense yet, but it feels like they have a ceiling we have not seen yet. I hope they can find another play maker for this offense, although it may not be this year, it may be a draft pick. A linebacker, OL and playmaker for the offense.

5-2 heading into the bye week. Finally notching a win at home. Managing to win an ugly one despite FOUR ugly turnovers. After the Mariner's implosion, this doesn't feel like the worst place to be.

Nest up an intriguing trip to Washington (the other one) to take on Dan Quinn's squad, then a potential home loss to Arizona - a team we have shit the bed at home against too many times. Let's see how this team responds.

Go Hawks. Go M's.

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by DavidGee24 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:57 pm

Just to reiterate what I said in the game thread, the Tennessee Titans are the Zombie Oilers as they are the Oilers that physically moved. The Oilers were replaced by the Texans so the Texans are the Body Snatcher (from Invasion Of The Body Snatchers) Oilers.

We should have obliterated the Body Snatcher Oilers. A defensive TD that turned into a touchback, Darnold inexplicably dropping the ball in his own end zone...they literally threw away 7 points and gave them 4 (they missed the PAT) free points.

And for the second straight time this season, while driving down the field at will they called a completely unnecessary cute tricky play and turned it over. Gave away 3-7 points right there. So all told, they flushed 14-18 points right down the toilet. And still won easily.

The team is 5-2 and if we can acquire another good wide receiver before the season's over this is going to be a dangerous team.
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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by douche » Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:04 pm

I'm not saying anything new here because everyone on this forum is fully aware, but... this team will either find a way to lose in the most frustrating way possible, or they will find a way to win in the most unlikely fashion despite continuously shooting themselves in the foot.

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:31 pm

I didn't pay close attention but this seemed like the Jags game. Another clearly decided win that wasn't as close as the final score. The Commanders could be tough but the seahawks certainly know how to win on the road. Then its really the Rams isn't it? This isn't the team that lost to the Giants last season. I think the attitude and preparation has matured. We shall see if there's a let down. But at this point this isn't a team anybody is going to want to face.

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:54 pm

Wow.
Look at how many team sit at a 5-2 record in the standings.
Parity in the NFL.
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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:24 am

seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:54 pm
Wow.
Look at how many team sit at a 5-2 record in the standings.
Parity in the NFL.

I wouldn't really say parity, it's only been seven games. The Rams, 49ers and seahawks are all at 5-2 which is kinda interesting. The division is certainty there at this point

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by auroraave » Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:00 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:57 pm
Just to reiterate what I said in the game thread, the Tennessee Titans are the Zombie Oilers as they are the Oilers that physically moved. The Oilers were replaced by the Texans so the Texans are the Body Snatcher (from Invasion Of The Body Snatchers) Oilers.

We should have obliterated the Body Snatcher Oilers. A defensive TD that turned into a touchback, Darnold inexplicably dropping the ball in his own end zone...they literally threw away 7 points and gave them 4 (they missed the PAT) free points.

And for the second straight time this season, while driving down the field at will they called a completely unnecessary cute tricky play and turned it over. Gave away 3-7 points right there. So all told, they flushed 14-18 points right down the toilet. And still won easily.

The team is 5-2 and if we can acquire another good wide receiver before the season's over this is going to be a dangerous team.
Yeah I was reaching on the Zombie Oilers a bit. I was watching Univ of HOuston play last weekend and they were rocking Oiler colors - pretty awesome. That iconic Oil Derrick logo.

Yeah, we need another playmaker on offense - badly. If not for the bumbling, this game felt like a blow out... right up until they got all puckered up going into halftime and just pissed away all the clock - while having nearly two minutes and three timeouts. Baffling. It's like the head office called and said "no blowouts going into the half, we need to retain the audience for another hour for peak ad sales revenue" and we complied.

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:51 am

Sorry if I'm going on and on but this is just what I'm talking about. For as wild as the TB game was I began to have my doubts about that defense. MM adjusts their practice and they just hammer the Jags and Texans. The four TOs, the defense picked them up and carried them. Same as last season, MM pulled the defense together for that strong finish. I am just impressed with how he takes a team through a season. It's what you want to see, a team getting stronger as the season progresses. It's what Pete was good at in his prime and MM is in his second year. You know the titans interviewed MM before JS did. I'm thankful they came out of that coaching cycle with him.
In the wake of the worst statistical performance of the season by the Seahawks defense in a 38-35 loss to Tampa Bay on Oct. 5, Macdonald decided his team might benefit from more work in practice in quick-change or sudden situations, such as having to take the field after a turnover.

It’s something all teams practice regularly, but the Seahawks wanted to reinforce it after blowing a late lead against the Bucs.

“We've intentionally over the last couple weeks put our guys in some really, really difficult situations and have them respond to it," Macdonald said. “We get used to playing in those situations. Our guys have done a good job. Taken us a while to kind of get used to it. These are the things that we're learning as a program — how we build our guys, build our mentality."

That work has paid off in what have statistically been the best two defensive performances of the season the last two weeks in wins over Jacksonville (20-12) and Houston (27-19) on Monday night.

After allowing Tampa Bay to gain 7.3 yards per play — two yards more than the Seahawks have allowed in any other game this season — they held the Jags to 4.0 per play (which tied a season low) and Houston to 3.7 (which set a season low).

The ability of the Seahawks defense to adapt to quick-change situations was put to the test Monday night when the offense turned the ball over four times — three times requiring the defense to immediately take the field (Houston scored on the other).

The Seahawks defense twice stopped Houston without a point in the fourth quarter after turnovers gave the Texans the ball in decent field position — Houston’s own 46 and 48. Each time, the Seahawks stopped Houston on fourth down.

“It's how we roll," Macdonald said of adding a few more pressure-situation scenarios to practice. “‘Hey, there's something that we want to improve on.’ OK, well, what part of our process can we tweak to get better and improve in those areas? I feel like that's part of my responsibility, to get our team ready to play and be ready for those situations. If we're not doing it correctly on our end, then who's ultimately really responsible? That was the thought behind it.”

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by 57reasons » Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:55 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:24 am
seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:54 pm
Wow.
Look at how many team sit at a 5-2 record in the standings.
Parity in the NFL.

I wouldn't really say parity, it's only been seven games. The Rams, 49ers and seahawks are all at 5-2 which is kinda interesting. The division is certainty there at this point
yeah i hit my math wall after multi-variable calculus, but wouldn't parity be represented by a lot of 4-3 and 3-4 records as opposed to 5-2?
at this rate we're projecting to 12-5 for the season which is better than anyone foresaw, though with 4 still to go against the Rams, SF and Indy you have to think the tougher road still lies ahead.

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Re: Postmortem: Seattle v The World

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:04 am

57reasons wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:55 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:24 am
seattlefan-daBronx wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:54 pm
Wow.
Look at how many team sit at a 5-2 record in the standings.
Parity in the NFL.

I wouldn't really say parity, it's only been seven games. The Rams, 49ers and seahawks are all at 5-2 which is kinda interesting. The division is certainty there at this point
yeah i hit my math wall after multi-variable calculus, but wouldn't parity be represented by a lot of 4-3 and 3-4 records as opposed to 5-2?
at this rate we're projecting to 12-5 for the season which is better than anyone foresaw, though with 4 still to go against the Rams, SF and Indy you have to think the tougher road still lies ahead.
last seasons start didn't seem legitimate and sure enough they collapsed. This start feels much more legit. They are laying the wood to good teams.

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