Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:10 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:45 pm
If he expects the same level of play from Connor O'Toole and Chazz Surratt as he gets from Ernest Jones then he is stupid.
I don't think it's expecting the same level of play from them as it is expecting the same level of play from his defense.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:19 am

And in other news, Horton on the DL

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 24, 2025 5:19 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:45 pm
If he expects the same level of play from Connor O'Toole and Chazz Surratt as he gets from Ernest Jones then he is stupid.
Patrick O’Connell

Called up due to Ernest Jones’ injury, O’Connell had an inauspicious beginning to his first career start, biting on a Cam Ward pump fake and giving up a scramble for a first down. After that, he was a menace. O’Connell recorded a sack in the red zone in addition to nine solo tackles and a key run stop for a loss. No Jones, no Tyrice Knight, no problem. O’Connell is the latest Seahawk practice squad player to impress with his active roster elevation

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Nov 24, 2025 5:56 am

That's great, hope he stays with the team when Jones returns.

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Re: Postmortem: Sea v Lambs - The One That Got Away

Post by 57reasons » Mon Nov 24, 2025 5:57 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:09 pm
57reasons wrote:
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^^^^ This. They are complimentary options. What is ALWAYS lost on here is that opposing teams have defensive coordinators. They watch tape on Seattle. They track their tendancies. Seattle knows this. They have to use personnel in ways the defense isn't expecting, counter to their tendancies. The RB group is a perfect example. Different backs will make defenses defend them differently with different looks - based on tendancies. you can exploit that. Seattle also has a strong RB room. Why would you NOT spread it around? Not only does more carries spread around make the number 3 back more experienced and ready should your 1 or 2 go down, it takes hits off of those backs. "Stats" and PFF don't take these subtle nuances into consideration. Walker runs out of bounds so he can get to his phone faster and check his insta feed, is what I am hearing. :lol:
There's one other, perhaps even the main reason, that Charbs gets almost equal carries - because he's SO much better as a pass blocker, he gets equal PT. If it were just about running the ball, that wouldnt be the case. But you cant be so predictable, have to keep your options multiple so the D cant key on either pass or run.
Curious how he pass blocks and gets carries on the same play? Flea flickers?? lol
He doesn't, but the point is that you often need to check out of a running play to a pass against a stacked box, or a longer developing pass play which will rely more heavily on the back picking up the blitzer, each of which favors Charbs over K9 as the far better pass protector. I dont have the stats on it, but likely far higher percentage of throws when Charbs is in vs. K9. Defenses of course know that, so can key on K9 much more, whereas with Charbs is much less of a tell. Not saying he's better overall, just explaining why the gap is not as great as you'd think.

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