Postmortem - Seattle v Twin City Cemetary Club

[Michael K.]

I have a confession - I'm currently nearly as addicted to JSN highlights as I am Seahawks wins, so this game
left me underwhelmed, despite the shutout.

Incredible that shit like this goes un opposed, but defending the scheme that resulted in an easy 26 to 0 win is met with criticism.

Then? You comment this gem.

I was hearing similar things on the radio. It's over my head, but the eye test confirms Darnold never really had a
chance much of the time.

So, the concept of over loading the offense to expose their weaknesses is "over your head", but your eye test is what we should count on? You also must not buy into PFF, which I don't really either, but they sure graded our O Line high in Pass Pro. Darnold had a bad game. Lots of QBs have bad games against Minnesota, that's why they are 5th in the entire fucking league in pass defense!

Caleb Williams 210 yards passing. 1TD 0 INTs. Vikings Win
Michael Penix 135 yards. 0 TDs and 0 INTs. Falcons Win. Hmm, sounds familiar no?
Jake Browning 140 yards. 1 TD and 2 INTs. Vikings Win.
Aaron Rodgers 200 yards. 1 TD and 0 INTs. Steelers Win.
Dillon Gabriel 190 yards. 2 TDs and 0 INTs. Vikings Win.
Jalen Hurts 326 yards. 3 TDs and 0 INTs. Eagles Win.
Justin Herbert 227 yards. 3 TDs and 1 INT. Chargers Win.
Jared Goff 284 yards. 2 TDs and 0 INTs. Vikings Win
Lamar Jackson 176 yards. 1 TD and 0 INTs. Ravens Win
Caleb Williams 193 yards. 0 TDs and 0 INTs. Bears Win.
Jordan Love 139 yards. 0 TDs and 0 INTs. Packers Win
Sam Darnold 128 yards. 0 TDs and 0 INTs. Hawks Win

I look at that? And I believe that our coaching staff understood the assignment. Winning QBs against the Vikings have thrown for 135, 200, 227, 176, 193, 139, and 128. I HATED that Pete Carroll knew one way to win. Our staff game planned for this, understood that you don't beat the Vikings through the air. Hurts and the Eagles are the anomaly.

The second highest passing numbers against the Vikings? Goff's 284.....Detroit Lost.
Caleb Williams has the fourth most passing yards against them. The Bears lost that game.
I put in bold above the ONLY games the Vikings have given up 200 or more passing yards. They won two of those games. They only have four wins overall!

But yeah, we should have opened up the passing attack and worried about Fantasy Football numbers. Again, you just can't make this shit up.

As for the fumbles by Darnold? I'm sure they will work on ball security. But why is it when our defense gets a strip sack, we go bonkers about how great our defense is, but when the Vikings, who are fifth against the pass in the entire league do it? It's Sam's fault?

Only in this place. I would love to poll every Seahawk fan as they exited the Stadium and ask them what their satisfaction score of that "pathetic" ball game on Sunday was.

[auroraave]

lol

[Michael K.]

Every time I believe you couldn't be a bigger idiot? You prove me wrong.

Great contribution to the discussion though. I love how you used facts to support your stance. Typical Aurora Ave shit. Dude, I'm not angry. Why you or trharder say in here impacts my life less than zero. I like talking football, you two like attacking posters you don't like. Big difference.

Attack my stance? Look at what the Vikings defense has done this year and tell me our gameplan was flawed? You can't, so you post something you hope will stir the pot. What don't you agree with that I said? Was it that I agree with the game plan that resulted in a 26 to 0 win, and find it funny that those that don't agree with me also didn't agree when I DIDN'T like the game plan that resulted in a 49er loss? Was it when I showed you the stats of other QBs Detroit had played, and that in only four games all year did a QB throw for over 200 yards, and in two of those games the Vikings got half of their victories?

What statement did I make that you didn't agree with? Did I miss any? I could tell you and trharder that the sky is blue and grass is green and you both would argue that sometimes there are clouds in the sky and snow on the ground, so obviously they are both white.

[D-train]

I read a couple of articles explaining how the Vikings were loading up on Seattle's right side - usually against the (young) tight ends and using stunts on them creating a lot of confusion among the entire right side. The younger TE's inexperience was getting exposed. That makes a lot of sense. Also, always a savvy move to target Bradford hahah. I think that line can learn a lot from this experience. MN does have a legit D. Maybe the olin coaches need to step it up, maybe that is where the weakness lies. It's doubtful we see that elaborate style again - or if we do, they will be better prepared for it. Could turn out to be a blessing in disguise as far as accelerating the learning curve of the young guns and the oline staff figuring it out before the playoffs.

I was hearing similar things on the radio. It's over my head, but the eye test confirms Darnold never really had a
chance much of the time. I also wonder if we are missing Sundell more than first advertised. The thing about this
part of the season is teams start to know you. There's now plenty of tape of the Rams and Vikings making things
miserable for The Darnold. I still think they should encourage and scheme to have Sam move around more...

This team has been consistently good. Mostly held together by a stiff glue of a defense. I remember when
virtually every backup or 3rd string QB playing the Seahawks would have their career-best day. This was the
opposite. This is a thoroughly different team these days, in a good way. They will still need to take one step
forward to go all the way. They may, but the obvious problem spot is Sam and the offense.

Mm said on the radio that when sundel comes back they are going to reconsider the lineup which I assume mean sundel at Right Guard

[Michael K.]

Mm said on the radio that when sundel comes back they are going to reconsider the lineup which I assume mean sundel at Right Guard

He also said they compete every week for positions. Doesn't say much for what they think about Haynes. They aren't just handing that spot to Bradford. I agree with Brock, the physical presence, and the fact that he can just move dudes sometimes....doesn't out weigh all the mistakes made. So? Haynes must be horrible.

Sundel isn't all that big. Salk mentioned again that he thinks it's odd that no one tries to matchup O Lineman by opposition. Suggesting playing Sundel at Guard until Carolina, and using Bradford then because of the size Carolina has inside up front. I think he is discounting way to much the way an O Line needs to work together as a unit. But, it is an interesting thought.

[D-train]

Mm said Haynes played well when he replaced Bradford when he hurt his elbow

[Michael K.]

Mm said Haynes played well when he replaced Bradford when he hurt his elbow

That wasn't my point. He also said they compete for positions every week in practice....Bradford has started every game he has been healthy. Just saying Haynes obviously hasn't impressed during competition in practice.

[D-train]

Mm said Haynes played well when he replaced Bradford when he hurt his elbow

That wasn't my point. He also said they compete for positions every week in practice....Bradford has started every game he has been healthy. Just saying Haynes obviously hasn't impressed during competition in practice.

Yep, waste of a pick, if you can't beat out Bradford you didn't deserve to be drafted at all. I think Bradford won't but playing as much when Sundell comes back given Olu seems to be holding his own and Sundell has experience playing G.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

All four of them are below average but Sundell is probably a better pass blocker than Bradford and Haynes and at this point i think protecting SD should be the top priority. I don't think PFF knows how to evaluate O linemen because lately they have been giving the OG that has allowed no sacks and very few pressures lousy grades while giving the OG who lets blitzers run by him (while he tracks a DL that is backpedalling) pass-blocking grades in the 70s and 80s.

[Michael K.]

They may all four be below average, but this O Line as a unit is light years better than what we witnessed last year. Some of that could just be from having Abe Lucas healthy all year. I didn't hate the Shaheed trade, especially since Horton wasn't healthy, and hasn't been since, and Kupp wasn't healthy. But that move basically meant we weren't making a move for a Guard to fit into that spot, I don't think they could afford to lose that much draft capital for depth at WR and on the O Line. Had to be one of two things....they thought WR was a much bigger need, or the value added by a player of Shaheed ability was better than anyone that was available on the O Line.

I like this team, far more than I did just a couple of months ago....I just find it hard to be critical right now. Hard to believe those words would ever be uttered by me! I thought ten wins was probably the ceiling, and now we might have ten wins by the end of the first week of December!? And people are disappointed we only beat the Vikings 26 to 0 and JSN wasn't filling up the stat sheet. Odd to me.