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Re: QB Rankings

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:11 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:31 pm
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I typically don't give a F about this nonsense but Sam being outside the top 10 is ridic. I would put him at about 7. Below Drake Maye???? :lol:
Buffalo’s Josh Allen was No. 1 in ESPN’s QB rankings, followed by Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes, the Los Angeles Rams’ Matthew Stafford, Cincinnati’s Joe Burrow and Baltimore’s Lamar Jackson. Dallas’ Dak Prescott, the Los Angeles Chargers’ Justin Herbert, New England’s Drake Maye, Detroit’s Jared Goff and Williams rounded out the top 10.
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/nfl/seat ... b-rankings
Yeah he was 5th in Yards, 3rd in Yards/Attempt, 8th in Completion Percentage, 9th in TDs and 11th in Passer rating. Not sure how that is not a top 10 QB.

Of this list here I am taking Darnold over Herbert, Maye and Williams for sure.
I would take him over Goff as well.
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Re: QB Rankings

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:12 pm

He is also so easy to root for. Seems like a great guy with a good balanced demeanor. Maybe slightly boring but that's better than being a cocky jack ass or a clown that drives drunk at 90 mph on the freeway and then denigrates the cops just doing their jobs...
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Re: QB Rankings

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Jul 16, 2026 6:33 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
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I am aware of Rus's contract history. Of course there was a time when he was paid. But when it came to extending him again, he didnt pay Rus he traded him to the Broncos., like he did with Smith. And who knows, maybe he does with Darnold as well. That was the point i was trying to make. He didn't pay Rus, he traded him. He didn't pay Smith, he traded him. He traded them both in lieu of paying them. Could he do the same with Darnold?
Man, you're not just doubling down, you're tripling down. I mean, you did originally as an absolute state that we didn't pay Wilson. Is it REALLY that painful to just say "Oh shoot, I forgot that we paid him the first time, but thankfully we didn't the second time"? Nobody would give you grief, but nope, you just gotta.

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by D-train » Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:20 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 6:33 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 3:22 pm
I am aware of Rus's contract history. Of course there was a time when he was paid. But when it came to extending him again, he didnt pay Rus he traded him to the Broncos., like he did with Smith. And who knows, maybe he does with Darnold as well. That was the point i was trying to make. He didn't pay Rus, he traded him. He didn't pay Smith, he traded him. He traded them both in lieu of paying them. Could he do the same with Darnold?
Man, you're not just doubling down, you're tripling down. I mean, you did originally as an absolute state that we didn't pay Wilson. Is it REALLY that painful to just say "Oh shoot, I forgot that we paid him the first time, but thankfully we didn't the second time"? Nobody would give you grief, but nope, you just gotta.
Exactly. I do not get it. So common on X too. Far more embarrassing going that route.
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Re: QB Rankings

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Jul 17, 2026 4:39 am

I'm confused, I thought Wilson got traded in the final year of an extension. The above information seems to indicate that he had 2 years left (4 year extension taking effect in 2020) on the 2nd extension after the 2021 season when he was traded. But didn't he sign a new contract with the Broncos?

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 17, 2026 10:26 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 6:33 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 3:22 pm
I am aware of Rus's contract history. Of course there was a time when he was paid. But when it came to extending him again, he didnt pay Rus he traded him to the Broncos., like he did with Smith. And who knows, maybe he does with Darnold as well. That was the point i was trying to make. He didn't pay Rus, he traded him. He didn't pay Smith, he traded him. He traded them both in lieu of paying them. Could he do the same with Darnold?
Man, you're not just doubling down, you're tripling down. I mean, you did originally as an absolute state that we didn't pay Wilson. Is it REALLY that painful to just say "Oh shoot, I forgot that we paid him the first time, but thankfully we didn't the second time"? Nobody would give you grief, but nope, you just gotta.
And they had given Smith a previous contract as well. You think I forgot all that? Seriously? The reason for trading RW and Smith was not wanting to meet their contract demands. Instead of paying them he traded them. Had nothing to do with previous contracts. If that concept is beyond the grasp here then it's really my fault for not dumbing things down enough for the audience, sorry about that.

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 17, 2026 10:35 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 4:39 am
I'm confused, I thought Wilson got traded in the final year of an extension. The above information seems to indicate that he had 2 years left (4 year extension taking effect in 2020) on the 2nd extension after the 2021 season when he was traded. But didn't he sign a new contract with the Broncos?
He was demanding a new contract which JS decided not to give him and the Broncos did. It was the same situation with Smith, the Raiders were willing to give him his new contract. Two times in a row JS traded his starting QB instead of meeting their contract demands, instead of paying them. I was just pondering on the possibility of JS making it three times in a row. Darnod is now going to be in position to make new contract demands. It was the similarity between the three I was getting at. That nobody here seems to grasp that thought process seems unbelievable to me. Time to get the crayons out lol

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:13 pm

That's how I remembered it and I think they did too. It was your wording about JS' track record of paying them that caused some confusion. I assumed your main point was that he doesn't balk at shipping out QBs when their contract demands become excessive.

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 17, 2026 1:09 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:13 pm
That's how I remembered it and I think they did too. It was your wording about JS' track record of paying them that caused some confusion. I assumed your main point was that he doesn't balk at shipping out QBs when their contract demands become excessive.
It wasn't really even a point, i said it was silly but JS has kinda of a track record of it. The point really was, nobody was expecting RW to get traded, and nobody was expecting Smith to get traded. I certainly dont expext Darnold to get traded, its the last thing in the world id expect, but JS has some balls. Hes not the one that operates to expectations.

Terms of how i phrased it..
By 2022, the relationship had deteriorated. Wilson and his representation reportedly pushed for further precedent-setting contract demands. These included tying his salary to a percentage of the salary cap and barring the Seahawks from using the franchise tag
I remember that. Russell was looking to get paid. Thats how thats characterized. Hes looking for a payday. From where i come from, saying JS decided not to pay him would be understood. Sorry bro, you gots to go someplace else for that payday

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Re: QB Rankings

Post by auroraave » Fri Jul 17, 2026 3:15 pm

For as great as Wilson was his first few years on the team, he completely went off a cliff of narcissism at the end - we could not get rid of him soon enough - that stunning loss to the lambs and thier 9th string back up QB - all the while wilson could not be bothered to be game ready cause he was too busy obsessing on his brand and vitamin water and that obnoxious fucking perfume and podcast - and then pouting because Seattle would not make the entire season about getting him and MVP trophy. He came out strong in the passing game, then defenses caught up and he threw a bunch of ints and the offense went back to basics and he threw a fit about it. When you look back on it - Wilson was obsessed with personal accolades over the team and it was fucking disgusting. Could not dump his ass fast enough, IMO. The Great Cringe. Fuck that guy. Imagine suffering through his nauseating cliche's now on the air. Fucking barf. One of our most electric players ever - who let it all go to his head - and then fell flat on his face in Denver. Dude is a cautionary tale.

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