Spoon has the highest PFF grade for a DB in the NFL

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Re: Spoon has the highest PFF grade for a DB in the NFL

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:01 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 5:36 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:05 am
You would have to go read through all the game threads from the past 3 years. I can recall several disparaging comments from games just this season. I suppose they could have all been made by one poster but i doubt it.
There has been a lot of it, maybe not necessarily bashing, but many that thought we should have taken Carter. Many of those guys have criticized Spoon. Not necessarily saying he sucks, but that he isn't living up to his draft slot and we should have taken Carter. And yeah, some in the Game Threads, but Game Threads are about as Bi Polar as they come! Mostly just guys venting to what they saw that second. Like sitting in a bar and yelling at the TV.

I personally have always disagreed on Spoon being a mistake. I think Carter is a douchbag and would have been bad for the Locker Room. I remember spending a lot of time discussing the collapse of the Eagles a few years ago, how they couldn't stop the run. Carter was a big part of the problem. The guy takes plays off...has a reputation for being lazy. Sorry, he didn't seem like a MM guy to me, and I have always felt like we have been better off with the D Line we have had and Spoon, than not having Spoon and adding Carter to our D Line. I have always felt that way though, even when our D was struggling to stop the run. I just felt it was more about fit and scheme. Something MM has done a much better job of than Pete did at the end because Pete refused to adapt. Play LBs back, run soft coverage and hope the other team makes a mistake. It was HORRIBLE to watch, and Carter wouldn't have been a difference maker in the results.

MM also doesn't fuck around. We couldn't stop the run so he traded both LBs. You don't see that shit very often. I think we'd be complaining about Carter FAR more than those that have complained about Spoon. But, again, I really just think it was those that were pissed we drafted him, saying it's all about up front. Which is true, but guys like Spoon and Emanwari have made a HUGE different in this defense. I've never been upset we took Spoon, not after the draft when I read up on him, and CERTAINLY not after I watched the kid play.
So we have Spoon AND Murphy instead of Carter. I'd say that's working out pretty well.

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Re: Spoon has the highest PFF grade for a DB in the NFL

Post by Michael K. » Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:05 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:01 pm

So we have Spoon AND Murphy instead of Carter. I'd say that's working out pretty well.
Great point. I do think that Carter's work ethic was an issue, as was his character. He was in trouble right after the draft because he posted on social media a clip of him with a ton of guns in his car, or some shit like that. He already cost his team by spitting on an opponent on like the first snap from scrimmage. He is an incredible talent that is wasting it with a piss poor attitude.

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