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Re: Additions

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 pm
by ThePro

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:43 am
by maoling
ThePro wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 pm
Gerald McCoy released... Go Hawks

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2 ... ald-mccoy/
Woot! I like the way you think. How does it work with cap space if the Hawks manage to sign him to a contract that is a few million less guaranteed than the 13M (that no one wants to pay), but loaded with incentives? How do incentives figure into the cap?

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:37 am
by ThePro
maoling wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 1:43 am
ThePro wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 pm
Gerald McCoy released... Go Hawks

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2 ... ald-mccoy/
Woot! I like the way you think. How does it work with cap space if the Hawks manage to sign him to a contract that is a few million less guaranteed than the 13M (that no one wants to pay), but loaded with incentives? How do incentives figure into the cap?
Incentives count against the cap . Why a contract loaded with incentives? He got released because Bucs have cap issues not for performance. McCoy could get 13 mil/yr easy. Seahawks are well under the cap.

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 5:31 am
by 57reasons
Likely chemistry more an issue than dollars. Like McCoy as a player, but the rep on him is he's another "personality" who brings it in games but not so much in practice. Prolly a little too close to the Bennetts and Shermans of the world for Carroll's liking now with all the young hungry up-and-comers on D. As contrasted to Ziggy who's a focused high motor guy.

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 8:21 am
by ThePro
57reasons wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:31 am
Likely chemistry more an issue than dollars. Like McCoy as a player, but the rep on him is he's another "personality" who brings it in games but not so much in practice. Prolly a little too close to the Bennetts and Shermans of the world for Carroll's liking now with all the young hungry up-and-comers on D. As contrasted to Ziggy who's a focused high motor guy.
Comparing McCoy to Bennett and Sherman? Don't get that at all.

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:50 pm
by auroraave
any updates on McCoy's destination? he'd be a great pickup for a price - maybe $5 - $7 mill on a one year deal? That line would be looking suddenly very formidable. Just the fact they have the cap room to even consider it is another master stroke by JS.

Re: Additions

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
by ThePro
auroraave wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:50 pm
any updates on McCoy's destination? he'd be a great pickup for a price - maybe $5 - $7 mill on a one year deal? That line would be looking suddenly very formidable. Just the fact they have the cap room to even consider it is another master stroke by JS.
He was just released yesterday. Nothing yet. I don't think a one year deal will get it done. Probably a multi year deal and an outbid of other teams to get him here. Hawks have space to do something like that.

Re: Additions

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:18 pm
by HawkandMariner88
I would maybe cap it at 9 mil/year. You know he wants to play for a contender & I just don't see that in Indy or Cleveland, at least yet.