2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by trharder » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:02 pm

ThePro wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 am
trharder wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:43 am
It appears the 49ers are much better than last year. They handled the Rams no problem and blew out
the team the Seahawks just squeaked by.
Triangle theory doesn't work
Doesn't work what? Were the 49ers undefeated at this point last year?

I saw a long rant on another forum saying the "Seahawks playing down to their competition" is a myth.
What the myth believers don't understand, apparently, is this is merely a function of Pete Carroll's philosophy.

So, when the Seahawks choke special teams coverage, leave gaping holes for an mediocre QB to exploit, fail
to put any pressure on this same QB, while allowing our own QB to be sacked many times, and fall down two
TDs in the first half ---- Don't worry. This is just Pete's philosophy at work. They will come out at half and go
3 and out on their first possession and then proceed to win the game. Because, you see, the key to winning
according to PC's philosophy is to keep it close and don't make mistakes. You can't win it in the first 3 quarters,
after all...

Don't believe your lying eyes. Those heart palpitations you are experiencing aren't real. It was never in doubt.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by ThePro » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:34 pm

They don't play that way intentionally.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by DavidGee24 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:38 pm

trharder wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:02 pm
ThePro wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 am
trharder wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:43 am
It appears the 49ers are much better than last year. They handled the Rams no problem and blew out
the team the Seahawks just squeaked by.
Triangle theory doesn't work
Doesn't work what?
What he's alluding to is circular logic, where if Team A beats Team B and Team B beats Team C, it doesn't automatically mean Team A will be beat Team C. For example, the Hawks beat the Cardinals and the Cardinals beat the Falcons. That doesnt guarantee the Hawks will beat the Falcons in two weeks. Certain matchups, health, execution, ball bounces, those things.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by Michael K. » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:41 pm

You can make comparisons though, and two things concern me. The 49ers dominated both lines of scrimmage on Monday against the Browns on Monday....we did not.

Mayfield looked awful against the 49ers, and he really seemed comfortable against us before getting dinged up.

I fear the 49ers will shut down our ground game and run on us at will. That is based on the common opponent, so sure, it may not happen. But is certainly a concern.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by ThePro » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:44 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:38 pm


What he's alluding to is circular logic, where if Team A beats Team B and Team B beats Team C, it doesn't automatically mean Team A will be beat Team C. For example, the Hawks beat the Cardinals and the Cardinals beat the Falcons. That doesnt guarantee the Hawks will beat the Falcons in two weeks. Certain matchups, health, execution, ball bounces, those things.
Precisely.. but even more specifically just because the 49ers easily defeated two teams Hawks had close games with doesn't mean they are superior. Everyone was already giving the Cowpokes the next 3 Superbowls 2 weeks ago.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by ThePro » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:52 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:41 pm
You can make comparisons though, and two things concern me. The 49ers dominated both lines of scrimmage on Monday against the Browns on Monday....we did not.

Mayfield looked awful against the 49ers, and he really seemed comfortable against us before getting dinged up.

I fear the 49ers will shut down our ground game and run on us at will. That is based on the common opponent, so sure, it may not happen. But is certainly a concern.
A team coming off a loss and getting humiliated on national tv is going to come out fighting like hell. 49ers played them under a totally different set of circumstances.

If roles were reversed and the Hawks blew out the Browns at the Clink and the Niners had to play them in Cleveland after that. They might not have fared as well . Browns are talented. ...obviously.

You just can't compare opponents like that and predict results.

Jarran Reed is coming back this week and barring a disaster. No one will be running against the Hawks for much success... let alone at will.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by Oso Dorado » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:01 pm

Jarran Reed is coming back this week and barring a disaster. No one will be running against the Hawks for much success... let alone at will.
We’ll get a good test of that theory against the Ravens.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by DavidGee24 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:47 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:41 pm
You can make comparisons though, and two things concern me. The 49ers dominated both lines of scrimmage on Monday against the Browns on Monday....we did not.

Mayfield looked awful against the 49ers, and he really seemed comfortable against us before getting dinged up.

I fear the 49ers will shut down our ground game and run on us at will. That is based on the common opponent, so sure, it may not happen. But is certainly a concern.
Yeah, I was watching the NIners maul the Rams yesterday and admittedly gulping in terror. But on the other hand, the Rams are a "pretty team" that gets socked in the mouth and drops into the fetal position. I think the Hawks match up somewhat better with the Niners.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by Michael K. » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:50 pm

ThePro wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:52 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:41 pm
You can make comparisons though, and two things concern me. The 49ers dominated both lines of scrimmage on Monday against the Browns on Monday....we did not.

Mayfield looked awful against the 49ers, and he really seemed comfortable against us before getting dinged up.

I fear the 49ers will shut down our ground game and run on us at will. That is based on the common opponent, so sure, it may not happen. But is certainly a concern.
A team coming off a loss and getting humiliated on national tv is going to come out fighting like hell. 49ers played them under a totally different set of circumstances.

If roles were reversed and the Hawks blew out the Browns at the Clink and the Niners had to play them in Cleveland after that. They might not have fared as well . Browns are talented. ...obviously.

You just can't compare opponents like that and predict results.

Jarran Reed is coming back this week and barring a disaster. No one will be running against the Hawks for much success... let alone at will.
As I said, not saying that will happen, but I can certainly see why we should have concerns.

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Re: 2019 5-1 - 2018 3-3

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:51 am

49ers will probably be 8-0 when we play them next month.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/SF/ ... sco-49ers/
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