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Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 pm
by D-train
Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:31 pm
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:46 pm
57reasons wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:42 pm
yeah, kind of like the Rooney rule, hard to figure out if it is helpful to solving the problem or the opposite. i think in general the Rooney rule has done more good than harm, but sure seems like an awkward deal for all sides at times particularly in cases where teams have a known desired target before they ever got rid of the old coach. but it was (is?) such on old boys club that something had to be done, this too perhaps.
I just can not fathom making a critical hiring decision based on race. I know it has happened and happened a lot back in the day but its absolute lunacy.
Beyond lunacy. I agree, I realize it happens, but sure don't understand why!
That is why I don't get the gender gap in wages. If I owned a business and only had to pay women 70% of what men made why wouldn't I??? I would probably hire only women even if I had to pay them 130% of what men made.
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 1:45 am
by Michael K.
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 pm
Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:31 pm
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:46 pm
I just can not fathom making a critical hiring decision based on race. I know it has happened and happened a lot back in the day but its absolute lunacy.
Beyond lunacy. I agree, I realize it happens, but sure don't understand why!
That is why I don't get the gender gap in wages. If I owned a business and only had to pay women 70% of what men made why wouldn't I??? I would probably hire only women even if I had to pay them 130% of what men made.
Haha!
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:05 am
by Hanjag
Michael K. wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:45 am
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 pm
Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:31 pm
Beyond lunacy. I agree, I realize it happens, but sure don't understand why!
That is why I don't get the gender gap in wages. If I owned a business and only had to pay women 70% of what men made why wouldn't I??? I would probably hire only women even if I had to pay them 130% of what men made.
Haha!
You do, Women make more than their cohorts by an average of 8% in the USA today. And that number is growing.
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 2:57 pm
by Oso Dorado
If you hire a coach that is half black, do you move up 3 spots?
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:40 pm
by Bil522
It is stupid to hire anyone based on race, gender, faith or sexual orientation. The only thing you can base your decision on is idiocy. The only question you are allowed to use when you are hiring someone is.... If I hire this person will I be seen as the bigger idiot for hiring them?
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:57 pm
by DavidGee24
Oso Dorado wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:57 pm
If you hire a coach that is half black, do you move up 3 spots?
Ha ha, I could just see someone hiring Rod Woodson and the NFL going ohhhhhh whaddawedonow...
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:37 pm
by D-train
Oso Dorado wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:57 pm
If you hire a coach that is half black, do you move up 3 spots?
Yeah can't a white coach pull a Elizabeth Warren and claim that he is 1,024th Black?
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:45 pm
If a team were to fill both positions with diverse candidates in the same year, that club could jump 16 spots -- six for the coach, 10 for the GM -- and potentially move from the top of the third round to the middle of the second round.
What is a [racially] diverse candidate? An individual can only be of one race.
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:31 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 pm
That is why I don't get the gender gap in wages. If I owned a business and only had to pay women 70% of what men made why wouldn't I???
Are you talking about a wage gap or an employment gap?
Of course women make the same wages as men if they are doing the same job for the same employer. Isn't that the law? They are employed less mainly due to giving birth and child-rearing. Currently in the U.S. there is a large gender gap in graduate schools in favor of women. Men, or rather boys, are being left behind.
Hanjag wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:05 am
You do, Women make more than their cohorts by an average of 8% in the USA today. And that number is growing.
What do you mean by their cohorts? Are you saying employers are paying women more to do the same work?
Re: NFL discussing plan to incentivize minority hiring
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:15 am
by Oso Dorado
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 pm
What is a [racially] diverse candidate? An individual can only be of one race.
If my four grandparents were born in China, India, Kenya and Iceland, what race would that be?