Post Mortem: Seattle v Washington Redskins Football Club

[auroraave]

Exactly my point. Up 20-3 they should've put it out of reach, broken their spirits, even if it was just a field goal, taking time off the clock, reducing possessions and opportunities for the Redskins. But instead, they tried to run the clock out midway through the third quarter. When you look at both scores - it's interesting. The defense only gave up 15 points? Oh, that's a solid outing! I'll take it! Seattle only scored 20? And they didn't even give up a sack? Hmmm. That feels like underperforming, doesn't it?

no. not underperforming. The game plan was smart and effective - play extremely conservative, avoid sacks with small ball (runs and short passes), make Haskins beat us, don't turn the ball over. This will run the clock, shorten the game, keep the game low scoring.

The plan worked PERFECTLY except for the tipped ball that was intercepted. Haskins also surprised everybody by playing so well in the second half. He was awful as expected in the first.

Multiple people on here saying RW has regressed, which tells me that people here either don't watch the games, or simply don't know jack shit about football. If that one ball doesn't get tipped, he didn't miss a single pass. He executed the game plan perfectly, made zero bad decisions, and got the win. He was not 'confused' or 'lost' at any point whatsoever. The only thing that wasn't up to standard was his stat line. Oddly enough, I predicted this exact thing would happen, because THAT IS THE GAME PLAN TO BEAT THE REDSKINS.

I'm not challenging the game plan. I am trying to point out that 4 of Seattle's second half drives were three and out. They score to go up 20-3, and then go three and out four of the next five drives. The int. was a great play by the defense. I give them credit. My criticism is that Seattle has a long standing tradition of trying to 'just hold on for dear life' after getting a lead, and often times that lead is not insurmountable - not for any NFL offense. How many times do we see offenses go uptempo, get a quick score, and be right back in the game - while Seattle is plodding along going three and out. Happened when the LOB was knocking heads off - even they were vulnerable. A 20-3 deficit is still quite winnable when you have 4-5 possessions left - especially when the opposing offense is giving the ball right back. It's a pattern we've seen and it's unnerving. 20 points should not be the ceiling when you have this offense.

[D-train]

Yep that INT was horrid and inexcusable.......

Nice game for Cedric the entertainer....

Joe Fann
@Joe_Fann
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Cedric Ogbuehi had a 73.4 PFF grade vs. the WFT. He allowed just two pressures. An impressive bounce-back game from him against a standout defensive line.

[SeattleAddict]

here's the thing; in the English language, when somebody says "except" that means they aren't excusing the thing that follows, they are acknowledging that it was the EXCEPTION to the greater point.

What you people don't seem to realize is that other teams have professional football players that are trying to keep our team from doing the things we want... and sometimes they make good plays.

[DavidGee24]

The odd thing is, they controlled the game on the ground, yet in the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead they went pass happy. The INT came on first and ten from inside midfield! Normally the complaint for the three and outs is they went ultra conservative. That wasn’t the case...they put the game in Russ’ hands, and he was terrible.

It's fine that they throw on first down if the defense is looking for the run and you execute some good play-action. You just have to complete the play. Russ had a receiver open on the sideline but ran right up to the defender and then tried to throw it. Get that ball out a little sooner and it's 15 yards.

We've been talking about how it seems Russ isn't seeing things develop as quickly as he should. Makes you wonder if he's always been that way and if when he threw the fateful interception in the Super Bowl he saw Malcolm Butler jump the route but still threw it.

[D-train]

The guy was running right at him and was right in front of his face and he threw it anyway and the guy just reached up and tipped it. Probably the easiest play the guy has ever made. Terrible decision by RW. 3:45 mark.

https://www.seahawks.com/video/seahawks ... ts-week-15

[auroraave]

The odd thing is, they controlled the game on the ground, yet in the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead they went pass happy. The INT came on first and ten from inside midfield! Normally the complaint for the three and outs is they went ultra conservative. That wasn’t the case...they put the game in Russ’ hands, and he was terrible.

It's fine that they throw on first down if the defense is looking for the run and you execute some good play-action. You just have to complete the play. Russ had a receiver open on the sideline but ran right up to the defender and then tried to throw it. Get that ball out a little sooner and it's 15 yards.

We've been talking about how it seems Russ isn't seeing things develop as quickly as he should. Makes you wonder if he's always been that way and if when he threw the fateful interception in the Super Bowl he saw Malcolm Butler jump the route but still threw it.

I think Russ has pretty good instincts and usually makes the right moves - but we also have to allow for human error. I think lately he seems to be hesitant, less decisive - probably because of the string of interceptions a few games back. Out of the gate, while defenses were horrid due to no practice or preseason, Russ was feasting. Now that they have caught up and he was trying to overcompensate for the struggling defense, so he was forcing things because they had been working during the 5-0 stretch. Suddenly he's throwing picks and now he's apprehensive, more reluctant to sling it. Also, defenses have adjusted. I think a great remedy is the uptempo approach to further stress defenses and give the offense a bit more advantage, but we won't do that. It's been so successful and it breeds confidence, a confidence that seems to have taken a bit of a hit lately - and I think it's completely justified based on how the season started for him. He's not broken, he just got knocked off his game a bit, but we also need to play to his strengths. Wilson will be fine. The scales have balanced out between offenses and defenses since the start of the season.

[Michael K.]

It’s possible...like I said before, I have a buddy that has coached and played at a high level. He thinks Russ struggles to read defenses. That is part of the reason we don’t go hurry up. I disagree because I think the offense thrives with Russ in that mode, but who knows.

You are going to miss read, miss open receivers. The problem is what he does after. Throwing that ball was ill advised. Even a sack was better than what he did, but it looked to me like a simple pump fake and he could have tucked and ran for a few yards. Instead he forced it again. The decision making on the turnovers is the problem I have.

We all focus on DK tracking down Baker....that was a dumb ass throw, and cost us at least three points. Same for the one before the half against the Rams, and two against the Bills. The picks are bad, but how many now in the last few years in the Redzone! Redzone picks have been Jay Cutleresqu....it baffles me. The guy is so much better than that.

I have be clamoring to let Russ cook. I have been thrilled with them allowing him more freedom...shit, just the simple fact that we almost never call dive plays on second and long is a damn joy to me. But yesterday they needed to run more, and he proved that by making a really bad mistake at a really bad time.

[D-train]

Our defense has gone from worst in NFL history for points allowed to 15th of 32

[D-train]

This is a big reason why...

Joe Fann
@Joe_Fann
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Pete Carroll glowing about D.J. Reed on
@710ESPNSeattle
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"This was as good a game as a corner has played for us in a while. ... He deserves to keep playing."

Reed had an interception and a 90.5 PFF grade.

[ddraig]

I am beginning to wonder if indeed Russell Wilson should be included in the list of top, elite QB's in the league. All this talk about putting the offense into the hands of DangeRuss is beginning to look like, as many have stated, fools gold. He seems to be regressing as the opponents get weaker.

Note to Russ and Shitty: The Lambs and the Whiners are not the same as the Jets, Giants, Eagles, and the Carpetbaggers. They are not pushovers and my immediate guess is that now we have qualified as being in the playoffs, we will roll over and play dead. At this point we should be two games in front of the Lambs and the coming game this weekend should be of no consequence. But now it is pivotal and I don't see us winning the game.