Lj Collier carted off

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Wagner rated #3 in the NFL regardless of position. Brady is one and Donald is two.

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-bobby-wagn ... ke-kuechly

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[ThePro]

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The dreaded high ankle sprain..

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Sigh.........

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I knew we should have taken DK Metcalf in the first round!

[Michael K.]

Just read that he is supposed to miss the pre-season. I guess it could be worse.

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Just read that he is supposed to miss the pre-season. I guess it could be worse.

Which means the odds of him having much of an impact before Halloween are pretty minimal.......

[ThePro]

Just read that he is supposed to miss the pre-season. I guess it could be worse.

Which means the odds of him having much of an impact before Halloween are pretty minimal.......

Not necessarily.

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High ankle sprain recovery time
Healing from a high ankle sprain can take anywhere from six weeks to three months — sometimes even more. Healing time depends on how badly you’ve injured the soft tissue and if there was any bone damage.

To determine whether your ankle has healed enough for you to return to athletic activities, your physical therapist or doctor will evaluate your walking and weight bearing ability. They may also ask you to hop on that foot.

You may need an X-ray or other diagnostic imagery to determine whether healing is complete.

If there’s too much separation between your tibia and fibula, for example, your doctor may recommend corrective surgery. In that case, you’ll have to wear a cast or a boot for around three months while you recover, then return to physical therapy.

Usually, the long-term outcome is good for a high ankle sprain. Your ankle might be stiff and difficult to move for a prolonged period of time — more so than the typical, more common sprains. Arthritis can also set in if further separation of the bones isn’t treated.

Hoping for the best but not good......

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This was my point. He is raw and needs the practice time. Even best case he will be starting over right about the start of the regular season.

The early reports on an injury suffered Tuesday by Seattle first-round pick L.J. Collier — that it’s a high ankle sprain — elicited at least a little bit of an initial sigh of relief.

As Collier lay on the ground after the play ended, then limped on his own to the sidelines and then — after a few minutes of being tended to by trainers — was carted off the field, the worst-case scenarios of a broken bone or significant injury to a knee seemed possible.

But high ankle sprains, if maybe not as dire sounding as some injuries, are notoriously hard to predict.

Russell Wilson suffered a high ankle sprain in week one of the 2016 season and never missed a game. But, he also was clearly hobbling in week two, then suffered a knee injury in week three, and many close to the team remain amazed he never missed more than one snap the whole year.

Germain Ifedi, Seattle’s first-round pick in 2016, suffered a high ankle sprain on the Wednesday before the first game and was back four weeks later, missing just three games.

But ankle sprains can also shelve players for a significant amount of time — rookie offensive tackle Jamarco Jones had surgery last year after suffering a high ankle sprain and ended up going on Injured Reserve.

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Regardless of exactly how severe, a high ankle sprain of any sort means Collier is likely out for the preseason and will miss valuable practice time.

And it throws that much more uncertainty onto the team’s already question-riddled defensive line.

The Seahawks are already banking on a quick getting-up-to-speed from Ziggy Ansah, who has yet to practice after shoulder surgery last year, to be the team’s starting LEO, or edge rusher. For now, Cassius Marsh is the starter there with Jacob Martin and Barkevious Mingo also in the mix.

And they also are preparing to play the first six games of the season without their best interior defensive line player, tackle Jarran Reed.

Collier is playing the team’s five-technique end spot, or the other side from the LEO. That spot lines up on the strong side of the defense. The starter there last year was Quinton Jefferson, and if the season began today he’d likely still be the starter.

Rasheem Green, a third-round pick last year, also plays that spot as does Branden Jackson. Jackson seemed on the bubble to make the roster, but if Collier is out any substantial time then he might suddenly be a key player.

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Of course, any significant injury for Collier will also compel the Seahawks to scour the ranks of any available players to add to the defensive end spot.

That could mean signing any current free agents — which isn’t a great list but does include the likes of Kony Ealy and Robert Nkemdiche, a former first-round pick who was waived earlier this week by Arizona. Dion Jordan, who also played the five-technique end spot some last year for Seattle, remains a free agent but also has to serve a 10-game suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy, reportedly for using Adderall.

Seattle could also dangle some of its picks from next year to make a trade, or wait to see who gets waived in the cutdown to 53. That’s where it might not help that there is now only one cutdown day, following the final preseason game. But veterans are commonly released earlier in camp if a team knows they are not going to make the roster (as Seattle did last year with Jon Ryan). So maybe someone somewhere could fall into Seattle’s lap.

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As for Collier, Tuesday’s practice — the first in full pads — marked the first chance for the Seahawks to get a really good read on where he is.

Veteran left tackle Duane Brown, asked about the play on which Collier was hurt, volunteered that Collier is “still kind of raw in his technique’’ but has lots of potential.

That seemed to be the growing conventional wisdom — Collier has a lot of ability and want-to but may need some time refining his skills to really be an impact player. He hadn’t gotten much time with the number one defense, typically working with the second and third units, with Jefferson and Green typically working with the starters.

Of course, that means the worst thing that can happen for Collier is missing what is the best teaching and learning time of the year — training camp and preseason games. There isn’t a lot of time for that once the regular season begins.

But it was as yet hard to tell just how much the team was going to get from Collier this year right off the bat.

For now, until there is clearer word from the team on a prognosis, the hope will be that Collier can get back early enough this season to be able to contribute at all.