DC fires the OC. LOL

[douche]

Bellingham Herald
Gregg Bell
January 6, 2025

"Grubb’s nadir came in Seattle’s galling home loss to the eventually 3-14 New York Giants, in October. Lead back Kenneth Walker, a 1,000-yard rusher two seasons ago, got just five carries among Grubb’s 58 play calls in that game. Thirteen of Grubb’s first 15 play calls in that game were passes, including while the Seahawks led in the game.

“I think we had plenty of run game in the plan. Didn’t have anything to do with not having enough calls for that. Just didn’t get called,” Grubb said after that loss. “For us, we leaned on the wrong thing. I think if we get Ken 10 more touches, 15 more touches, things are going to look different.

“That’s 100% on me.

“My job is to make sure we get all our guys in the best position possible to win the game. And I didn’t do that.”

Grubb apologized — then often still didn’t run."

[auroraave]

No OC in history could run the ball behind our shit interior line. I think they gave up too fast on him.

Maybe the O-line isn't quite the scapegoat you thought it was... Brock Huard and Mark Schlereth have been strongly hinting this for awhile now.

This. I have a hard time believing the oline is constantly bereft of enough talent to be competitive. JS has spent a lot of capitol on it. It's hard to believe every pick is a whiff - just statistically it doesn't track. To be fair, he also let's them leave for second contracts because he doesn't want to over pay.

I wanted to see Grubb get another year - there is a learning curve for most people, but I applaud Mac's decisiveness. Right or wrong it's the move of a team leader. The winner in this is likely Geno who will likely be back, and hopefully with a coordinator that plays to his strengths while understanding or own limitations. The dagger for me with Grubb was the long developing concepts over and over and over - behind a suspect oline. That never made sense - nor the refusal to use play action and really any misdirection. Baffling.

[seattlefan-daBronx]

Does this mean it "wasn't Geno's fault"???

imho I think it was a little of both the line and Geno lack their of...

[Michael K.]

Does this mean it "wasn't Geno's fault"???

imho I think it was a little of both the line and Geno lack their of...

Yep, might as well bring him back.

[Donn Beach]

I don't think it was about losing this or that game, giving him more time, or getting him to run the Offense the way MM wants. As MM said himself, their visions were not aligned. I pointed out the selection process was odd to begin with. With a rookie HC that's from the defensive side of the game why do you go with an even less experienced rookie coach to run his Offense? MM is from the Harbough school of football. He needs a seasoned OC that understands that type of football, that embraces it.

Rob Stanton

Listening to Macdonald last week describe needing to put other coaches around Grubb to help him understand the different offensive DNA’s was eye-opening. This can’t be a developmental opportunity. Grubb had never coached in the NFL, was learning on the run and that wasn’t going to cut it. The next coordinator needs to be Macdonald: offensive version

Okay, you heard it here first, Tanner Engstrand. They will need to pry him away from the Lions. A promotion to OC might do it

[Donn Beach]

Interesting, they tried to interview Engstrand, that just seems like a great fit, another guy that worked under Harbough

Other teams also see that offensive coordinator potential. He interviewed with both New England and Tampa Bay for their openings, while also fielding an interview request from the Seattle Seahawks. But Engstrand, like Johnson, ended back in Detroit, with an opportunity to further strengthen his resume ahead of the next hiring cycle

[Donn Beach]

BTW, Aden Durde is the Seahawks defensive coordinator, so I guess the DC could fire the DC as well. Remember he's the guy from England

[Michael K.]

BTW, Aden Durde is the Seahawks defensive coordinator, so I guess the DC could fire the DC as well. Remember he's the guy from England

Yeah, and Pete wasn't the DC when he was here. Mike calls the defense, I'd say he is the DC. Sark had an OC while he was at Washington, he left so he could call plays. Reid had Bienemy at KC. He left so he could call plays. This isn't news.

Huard said he was fired because we didn't establish an Offensive identity. I don't buy that either. I think they met after the season and MM told RG that he wanted to switch things up and Grubb didn't think he'd be a good fit for that. Or? MM told him he wasn't a good fit for the offense that he wants to run. But it makes no sense to hire a coach that ran the type of offense that Grubb ran for years and then fire him because he ran that offense.

[Donn Beach]

Here's MM explanation, it's straight forward. I don't think there was any discussion, they did it as soon as the ball regular season ended. The decision had been made. It's not about Grubb being a crappy OC, it just wasn't a fit.

And I'll tell you why they hired him, it was because Grubb was the guy they got to take the job. The hiring process was difficult because of a late start. Remember how long it took to get MM. Guys were already getting hired. I've seen the name of the guy they supposedly wanted, I could try and dig it up again. He got hired someplace else. The Grubb hire seemed odd at the time and it didn't work, now they have time to correct it. They are going about it quickly this time, and it gives Grubb time too. It was in his best interest to deal with it quickly. Be interesting what he does, back to Alabama? I don't think that OC is working out very well either. Same issue, last minute hire

https://youtu.be/ZAjy_OpDAI0

[trharder]

Huard said he was fired because we didn't establish an Offensive identity. I don't buy that either. I think they met after the season and MM told RG that he wanted to switch things up and Grubb didn't think he'd be a good fit for that. Or? MM told him he wasn't a good fit for the offense that he wants to run. But it makes no sense to hire a coach that ran the type of offense that Grubb ran for years and then fire him because he ran that offense.

Brock Huard did say "identity". I think that's a BS ambiguous term and don't give it anymore credence than you, but he also said Grubb is
stubborn. You are in effect saying that too. At a certain point Grubb stabbed around the edges of what MM wanted, but wanted to do it
his way anyway. That's why he's gone. MM has no ambition to micro-manage the offensive play calling, so he has to have a guy that's responsive.
In hindsight, it's easy to say Grubb was a bad choice to start with, but as Huard points out, OCs are either promoted to HC or fired. over and over.